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    re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Regardless if they would have voted that way or not, an election at the point of a gun, is still an illegitimate election. Also people don't have to die for an invasion and occupation to be a real an invasion and occupation.
    I didn't saw/hear any voter at the point of the gun.
    I didn't saw any Russian troop around the poll stations.

    Crimea is doing it's changes by the vote, Kiev should take lessons from this.
    Because there are more and more illegal actions occurred during January-February-March from the ex-opposition and current government of Ukraine.
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    re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    It's always in the best interest for the people to vote to make the one with the gun happy. Just look at North Korea.
    You can't provide evidence that people were voting by gunpoint. You can't provide evidence of people dying in this so called invasion. As a matter of fact, you have no evidence of an invasion.

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    re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    95%

    Putin seems to be more popular than Obama.

    I wonder how many hanging chads there were ?

    Maybe they should have asked for ID at the polls and the election would have turned out differently ?
    Kim Jung Un got a 100% of the vote, he must be really popular right? This is what an actual dictator looks like.

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    re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    You can't provide evidence that people were voting by gunpoint. You can't provide evidence of people dying in this so called invasion. As a matter of fact, you have no evidence of an invasion.
    The God damn Russian Military is there, there's a million pictures of them being there, how the **** can you say there's no evidence?

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    re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    And had this been the same, I'd be right there with you. But with only 80% voting, clearly no gunpoint forced anyone to the polls. The fact that it isn't 100% vote for Russia also indicates that the voting was not coerced, though I leave open the possibility of fraud in vote counting.
    You have an open mind. That's all I'm asking.

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    re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Russia invaded Crimea with armed force by the Russian military.

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    Under the treaty between the Ukraine and Russia, Russia is allowed to have up to 20,000 Russian troops in Crimea.

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    re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Well it looks like the people of Crimea has spoken. NINETY FIVE PERCENT voted to join Russia. WOW!!!

    We'll see what the people in Washington say who have been pushing democracy and the will of the people.

    Ukraine crisis: Early results show Crimea votes to join Russia - CNN.com
    What would actually be News, would be if the vote ended up some other way.

    Anyone who believes this was not a fake vote orchestrated by Putin....should be evaluated by a professional.

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    re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I can't believe people are this naive to believe this election is legitimate.
    It is legitimate up to a point. That the ethnic Ukrainians and Tatars boycotted the vote only means the yes vote will be higher than it would if they had not. Had this vote been fully transparent and open and free, then the result would have been the same but maybe only with a 60-70% margin. hence this vote is "legitimate" up to a point.

    What is sad is how the west has handled this situation. They actively lured Kosovo away from Serbia and rubber stamped similar elections but when Russia does it then it is illegitimate.. pathetic double standard.

    I do not like Putin, or how he has handled this, but I also dont like the way that the government in Kiev has handled this situation and over the last few decades tried to hurt the Russian minority... that is a fact, and I understand if this minority feels threatened. I mean Kiev tried to ban Russian and remove local powers from Russian speaking areas.

    Crimea has been ethnically Russia for over 100 years... deal with it.
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    re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    The God damn Russian Military is there, there's a million pictures of them being there, how the **** can you say there's no evidence?
    and ??

    All elections in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan were under the presence of US military troops.
    Does it make legal or illegal??
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    re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Read the news. Watch the TV. Open your mind and see the facts. Until you're prepared to do that, there's nothing anyone can do to help you see the light. Others in this very thread have answered this same question.
    See the facts? Where are the facts? There are no facts. No one has answered the question, because you can't answer it. You can only provide baseless assertions.

    BTW, if you actually believe everything you see on TV, I feel sorry for you. That is very, very, childish.

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