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    Re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    how many people were killed in the German invasion of Austria?
    Holy Roman Empire was Germanic language based Empire. It included Austria. Part of Austria since the end of the Holy Empire wanted to be part of a unified Germany. Called Großdeutschland (Greater Germany), it was the goal of many Germans and public was since 1860s. By the end of the Austro-Hungarian empire in 1918/1919, Austria pleaded to be included as part Germany. It was banned by the League of Nations.
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    Re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Well... I am gonna get a warning for this.. and mods I fully accept it.. but guess I can't fix stupid so I am gonna go about my day.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I suppose that works better than debating the facts.


    I hope you don't get an infraction, I certainly won't be reporting the post.

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    Re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Holy Roman Empire was Germanic language based Empire. It included Austria. Part of Austria since the end of the Holy Empire wanted to be part of a unified Germany. Called Großdeutschland (Greater Germany), it was the goal of many Germans and public was since 1860s. By the end of the Austro-Hungarian empire in 1918/1919, Austria pleaded to be included as part Germany. It was banned by the League of Nations.

    Still occupied them though and overthrew the existing government. Austria made no formal request to the Nazi's just as Crimea did not ask Putin to intervene.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    So basically you endorse separate-but-equal racism
    for which obviously everyone sticks with their own ethnicity? Then what is your ethnicity so we can pre-know where you stand on every issue given at least you are 100% loyal to your ethnicity whatever that leads to.



    Wrong. This is projection on your part.

    I have always endorsed and supported equal rights for all.





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    Re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    You dodged the question with a bunch of malarkey suggesting that you know how big the military should be. You call that an "answer", and mine wasn't? LOL
    I said it quite clear... 1/4th the current size to defend the nation. I did mention our defense spending is more than all our allies and biggest enemies combined. I waited for you to give ANY example of where we are lacking in Navy, Air Force, or Army... You have no reasoning behind your demand for more more more other than they won't send flyers...

    Then of course your CON rant about the social safety net... now I could give a dozen examples of Empires collapsing under their own weight... but we know those songs quite well don't we?

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    Re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    It's like you don't understand I was replying to DaveFagan, who said it was a CIA plot.
    Well it started with this at the beginning of the thread.

    It says nothing about indicating a secret CIA plot.
    It didn't stop there. The following was not directed to DaveFagan but directed at me personally

    To you, normal embassy operations are a sign of a secret CIA plot. That's weird, dude.
    Nothing there about DaveFagan, and it was simply not true.
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    Re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    What is wrong with any of this?
    It becomes problematic when the interference becomes so intense that a major nuclear armed power begins to have legitimate concerns for it's security right on it's near borders.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Once again, good for America. That's more than the economically incompetent and morally challenged Russians will ever do.
    The thing is this, it becomes a problem when it provokes unnecessary conflict with a major power. They way the whole situation was handled was wrong. Not only that, but you don't see US supported NGOs in Saudi Arabia, which has a more repressive society than Russia. There is a reason for that.

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    Re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Who hates Crimeans? Crimeans have made a choice. With choices come consequences. Surely you don't expect Ukraine to continue to make provisions for Crimea do you? However, they do have a history of being a bit fickle. Crimea voted to be independent of the Soviet Union (December 1991) and Ukraine (May 1992 -- rescinded then reconsidered 1994). So once again they have decided to switch. Let them look to their new leader for all their provisions.
    Please tell me that you realize that Ukraine gets it's gas and oil from Russia, which is what started all of this in the first place, right? The democratically elected president and parliament chose to get a great gas and oil deal with additional monies rather than join the EU. So if Ukrains tries any of what you're suggesting, Russia will close the pipelines that go through the Ukraine to Europe, and then Ukraine and half the EU will suffer as well. Sounds good? I don't think so. The ignorance of chicken hawks is astounding.
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    Re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Well it started with this at the beginning of the thread.



    It didn't stop there. The following was not directed to DaveFagan but directed at me personally



    Nothing there about DaveFagan, and it was simply not true.
    Everything I was saying was the Dave, and being incredulous that he could think it was a secret CIA plot. You responded to my posts to him. There was no US plot to install a new government in Ukraine. It wasn't done by Americans- CIA or otherwise.
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    Re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    You cast a vote after the region was been invaded by Russian troops. That is voting at the point of a gun.
    So all those purple fingers displayed in Iraq are meaningless? Interesting.

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