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    Re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I find it the usual but disappointing that over
    90% of those right-wingers posting on this board
    are supporting and justifying Putin's take-over in Crimea.

    It makes me wonder what is making the few like you tick that feel this referendum is a farce .
    Exposing scam referendums should supercede Political ideologies IMO.

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    Re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Only in your dreams. You fail to make a Hitler/Putin comparison.
    No you fail to acknowledge it, because you are a Putin apologist.
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    Re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The military isn't what's breaking us. It's half our citizenry's incessant need to sponge off the other half.
    Again dodged the discussion at hand. I answered your question and you retreat to a CON game on the social safety net. most you decry are working and being productive.

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    Re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    I always try to wrap myself around the coalitions coming together from both parties.
    Most don't like to be type-cast as "neo-con" or Isolationist, but I would surmise that you and I are both Neos with Russia's Putin.

    I'm closer to the vest on Crimea, watching the ruble and Russian stocks tumble.
    I just read how poor that Crimea is, so Russia will be hurt there.
    Merkel has turned on Russia, and China abstained on the resolution.

    The world sees the scam referendum for what it is and Putin has irreparably damaged himself in the trust category.
    As for ideologies, I continue to point out that differences within both parties are much more pronounced on issues like foreign policy .
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Exposing scam referendums should supercede Political ideologies IMO.
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    Re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin' Grant. I didn't say there was anything wrong with it. Although I haven't gone into it to deeply.
    Hi, MMC. It just seemed curious that you posted this.

    Ukraine is overly in debt, and no real prospects of solving their financial problems. Also lets not forget Johnny Quest accuse our Intel agencies of dropping the ball.
    Most countries are overly in debt and will need responsible governments to sort things out. Russia itself is also deep in debt with an economy that's going nowhere. The Ukraine would certainly have a better chance were they in the EU.
    "Since the beginning of the political unrest in Ukraine, the CIA has regularly updated policymakers to ensure they have an accurate and timely picture of the unfolding crisis," CIA spokesman Todd Ebitz said. "These updates have included warnings of possible scenarios for a Russian military intervention in Ukraine. Any suggestion otherwise is flat wrong." A spokesman for the Director of National Intelligence also denied that the intelligence community failed to see that Russia was going to send troops into Crimea, and added that the intelligence community has "frequently warned" of worrying trends in Russia since President Vladimir Putin came back into office.
    Of course the Russians invaded Georgia so there isn't much doubt as to Putin's ambitions, both by his actions and statements. The only question is where the West wants to stop him and how. I still believe they will, after much bluster, let him have the Crimea but will stop him there. Even Merkel appears on board with that now.

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    Re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I always try to wrap myself around the
    coalitions coming together from both parties.
    Most don't like to be type-cast as "neo-con" or Isolationist, but I would surmise that you and I are both Neos with Russia's Putin.

    I'm closer to the vest on Crimea, watching the ruble and Russian stocks tumble.
    I just read how poor that Crimea is, so Russia will be hurt there.
    Merkel has turned on Russia, and China abstained on the resolution.

    The world sees the scam referendum for what it is and Putin has irreparably damaged himself in the trust category.
    As for ideologies, I continue to point out that differences within both parties are much more pronounced on issues like foreign policy .
    How Obama and the rest of the World deals with Putins agression is more of a Foreign Policy issue.

    But Putins actions can be addressed on their own, without any qualifications that are dependant on Political classification or ideology.

    Thts how I see this issue for the time being.

    Judging Putin on his actions and waiting to see how the rest of the world reacts

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    Re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    There was no violence in the Crimea during the protests, and to compare it to the Balkans where millions of people were killed is just stupid. And just because the Russians have historical ties to a region doesn't give them the right to invade and annex it especially after signing a treaty, not the one in 1954, which clearly recognized the region as belonging to Ukraine. "Having a grievance" is not justification enough for invasion.

    Also like I said before, who ****ing cares about the particulars of the Ukrainian impeachment process. The guy is killing people in the street, robbing the country of its tax dollars to feed into personal bank accounts and you would rather let the suffering of millions continue and the economic stagnation and robbery of an ENTIRE country continue because its more important to follow the strict letter of the law.

    **** that, that's stupid.
    Well... I am gonna get a warning for this.. and mods I fully accept it.. but guess I can't fix stupid so I am gonna go about my day.
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    Re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Well... I am gonna get a warning for this.. and mods I fully accept it.. but guess I can't fix stupid so I am gonna go about my day.
    I suppose that works better than debating the facts.

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    Re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I suppose that works better than debating the facts.
    I've already given facts.
    Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office. H.L Mencken

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    Re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Again dodged the discussion at hand. I answered your question and you retreat to a CON game on the social safety net. most you decry are working and being productive.
    You dodged the question with a bunch of malarkey suggesting that you know how big the military should be. You call that an "answer", and mine wasn't? LOL

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