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    Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:76]

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    Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?

    A new study sponsored by Nasa's Goddard Space Flight Center has highlighted the prospect that global industrial civilisation could collapse in coming decades due to unsustainable resource exploitation and increasingly unequal wealth distribution.

    Noting that warnings of 'collapse' are often seen to be fringe or controversial, the study attempts to make sense of compelling historical data showing that "the process of rise-and-collapse is actually a recurrent cycle found throughout history." Cases of severe civilisational disruption due to "precipitous collapse - often lasting centuries - have been quite common."
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    " high levels of economic stratification are linked directly to overconsumption of resources"

    under conditions "closely reflecting the reality of the world today... we find that collapse is difficult to avoid."

    how do we humans " reduce economic inequality" and also find a way " to dramatically reduce resource consumption "??

    work by KPMG and the UK's Government Office for Science shows that resource exploitation could create a "perfect storm" of civilisational-ending crises by 2030.
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    re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:76]

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Just a 'few' items in this story to stir up discussion



    Items to discuss

    " high levels of economic stratification are linked directly to overconsumption of resources"

    under conditions "closely reflecting the reality of the world today... we find that collapse is difficult to avoid."

    how do we humans " reduce economic inequality" and also find a way " to dramatically reduce resource consumption "??

    work by KPMG and the UK's Government Office for Science shows that resource exploitation could create a "perfect storm" of civilisational-ending crises by 2030.
    What else did they "prove" in this study? That pigs can fly and aliens visited Mars? This study is little more then an opinion. There is no way they can reach any such conclusion based on the "evidence" they presented.

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    re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:76]

    why is nasa making this study and not an anthropological group?

    also, i hope they are wrong and its at least 60 years away so that my kids will have had times to live their lives completely.

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    re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:76]

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Just a 'few' items in this story to stir up discussion



    Items to discuss

    " high levels of economic stratification are linked directly to overconsumption of resources"

    under conditions "closely reflecting the reality of the world today... we find that collapse is difficult to avoid."

    how do we humans " reduce economic inequality" and also find a way " to dramatically reduce resource consumption "??

    work by KPMG and the UK's Government Office for Science shows that resource exploitation could create a "perfect storm" of civilisational-ending crises by 2030.
    Oh boy, another "man is doomed" prediction. Just like the Population bomb theory, just like the rain forest would be gone by now, just like we'd run out of food by now, just like CO2 is heating the earth... another stupid stupid study to rile up the gullible
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:76]

    The NASA mission has now morphed from running the national space shuttle service to conducting income inequality studies? It may be time to defund this bunch of "experts".
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    re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:76]

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Oh boy, another "man is doomed" prediction. Just like the Population bomb theory, just like the rain forest would be gone by now, just like we'd run out of food by now, just like CO2 is heating the earth... another stupid stupid study to rile up the gullible
    Don't forget the "ice age" predictions from those "experts".
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:76]

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Oh boy, another "man is doomed" prediction. Just like the Population bomb theory, just like the rain forest would be gone by now, just like we'd run out of food by now, just like CO2 is heating the earth... another stupid stupid study to rile up the gullible
    What was the population bomb? I'm familiar with the rain forest one...and what's the running out of food? I haven't heard these...


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    re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:76]

    What an unmitigated load of BS.

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    re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:76]

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Just a 'few' items in this story to stir up discussion



    Items to discuss

    " high levels of economic stratification are linked directly to overconsumption of resources"

    under conditions "closely reflecting the reality of the world today... we find that collapse is difficult to avoid."

    how do we humans " reduce economic inequality" and also find a way " to dramatically reduce resource consumption "??

    work by KPMG and the UK's Government Office for Science shows that resource exploitation could create a "perfect storm" of civilisational-ending crises by 2030.

    Let me guess: if everyone would just listen to the Liberals, everything would be ok.

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    re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:76]

    Study an ant colony.

    It sends out worker drones to collect resources so the colony can expand.

    Eventually, there are no more resources left so the colony must move to a new location with fresh resources.

    What if, that colony is a planet with 10 billion people and there are no more resources. No new planet to run to.

    Are you folks so anthropocentric to think we are somehow special and immune to the laws nature?

    The prediction of 2030 is certainly off, and the dire tales of economic stratification are largely unwarranted (unless the uber-rich begin hoarding all resources), but we need to re-think just how quickly we are using up what precious gifts our planet has given us.

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