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    re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:76]

    for those wondering, the headline from the Guardian does appear to be a bit off, the study may have received some funding from NASA but the organisation behind the study is another group - The National Socio-Environmental Synthesis Center (SESYNC)

    The paper may be found here
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    re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:76]

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    This is not belief it is science.

    There is no way off this rock.

    Maybe in a thousand or few hundred years but not now
    Really? So we don't have an International Space Station? NASA has not in the past launched maned space flights? We didn't travel to the moon? For there being no way off this rock, we seem to have had quite a few who left it for a short time.
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    re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:76]

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Really? So we don't have an International Space Station? NASA has not in the past launched maned space flights? We didn't travel to the moon? For there being no way off this rock, we seem to have had quite a few who left it for a short time.
    It would seem obvious to me that he's speaking on a more permanent basis.

    A self-sustaining method of living in space is a long, long way off. The ISS is an incredibly inefficient expenditure of resources in terms of sustaining life - we have to ship those resources up to the station and burn tons of rocket fuel in the process. They can't grow food and the thing is basically made out of tissue paper.

    But it's obviously an important step in our figuring out how to accomplish all that, so don't take this to mean that I'm suggesting the ISS is a waste.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:76]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It would seem obvious to me that he's speaking on a more permanent basis.

    A self-sustaining method of living in space is a long, long way off. The ISS is an incredibly inefficient expenditure of resources in terms of sustaining life - we have to ship those resources up to the station and burn tons of rocket fuel in the process. They can't grow food and the thing is basically made out of tissue paper.

    But it's obviously an important step in our figuring out how to accomplish all that, so don't take this to mean that I'm suggesting the ISS is a waste.
    It would be possible fairly quickly if we put our money into it. Welfare is a zero return resource hog. Space is the advancement and the future of mankind. Not to mention that given the right motivation, we would quickly find that most of welfare are willful abuses, not something necessary for the betterment of our society or mankind as a whole.

    Find and exploit new resources, quit wasting them on the lazy willfully useless that are welfare.
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    re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:76]

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    You think overconsumption is a good long-term plan?
    Of course not, but I also believe that over-consumption is just another excuse for the Left Wing agenda.
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    re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:76]

    Their suggestion that reducing population growth is the key is actually a bit misguided. One of the biggest demographic threats to the continued viability of Western civilizations is not enough young people and too many old people. I don't envision any return to the Dark Ages for any country or region, but I can definitely see Japan and the EU plummeting into an economic abyss and losing their developed status within a decade or two. The U.S. will likely weather such a demographic crisis due to booming minority populations.
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    re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:76]

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    we would quickly find that most of welfare are willful abuses, not something necessary for the betterment of our society or mankind as a whole.


    The majority of people on TANF or SNAP have a job.
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    re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:76]

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    Their suggestion that reducing population growth is the key is actually a bit misguided. One of the biggest demographic threats to the continued viability of Western civilizations is not enough young people and too many old people. I don't envision any return to the Dark Ages for any country or region, but I can definitely see Japan and the EU plummeting into an economic abyss and losing their developed status within a decade or two. The U.S. will likely weather such a demographic crisis due to booming minority populations.
    That's not a threat, it's a necessity. Maintaining the same youngld ratio requires continued rapid population growth which isn't happening. (and isn't desirable in the long run) People in developed nations have fewer children. Undergoing that readjustment can't be helped.

    And the minority population growth, or growth in not-yet-developed nations, must also slow. It has to happen, the question is really just when.

    Any non-zero growth rate eventually puts humanity in a situation in which it must expand its resource sphere faster than the speed of light to sustain itself. For the moment, we have reason to believe that's impossible.
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    re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:76]

    Ah, so that was what they were talking about on Star Trek.

    Well, if it leads to replicators, let's go straight ahead!
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    re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:76]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post


    The majority of people on TANF or SNAP have a job.
    Then they don't need government assistance. They need to spend wisely and live within their means.
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