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    re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:76]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Let me guess: if everyone would just listen to the Liberals, everything would be ok.
    When liberals tell you that resources are finite and overconsumption is not a good long-term strategy, yes, you should listen to liberals.

    If a liberal says that resources are infinite and we shouldn't ever worry about the rate of consumption, you should not listen to that liberal.
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    re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:76]

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    What was the population bomb? I'm familiar with the rain forest one...and what's the running out of food? I haven't heard these...


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    re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:76]

    Quote Originally Posted by StringBean View Post
    Study an ant colony.

    It sends out worker drones to collect resources so the colony can expand.

    Eventually, there are no more resources left so the colony must move to a new location with fresh resources.

    What if, that colony is a planet with 10 billion people and there are no more resources. No new planet to run to.

    Are you folks so anthropocentric to think we are somehow special and immune to the laws nature?

    The prediction of 2030 is certainly off, and the dire tales of economic stratification are largely unwarranted (unless the uber-rich begin hoarding all resources), but we need to re-think just how quickly we are using up what precious gifts our planet has given us.


    Or we need to be finding a way off this rock. BTW, isn't that what NASA is supposed to be studying?
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    re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:76]

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Just a 'few' items in this story to stir up discussion



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    " high levels of economic stratification are linked directly to overconsumption of resources"

    under conditions "closely reflecting the reality of the world today... we find that collapse is difficult to avoid."

    how do we humans " reduce economic inequality" and also find a way " to dramatically reduce resource consumption "??

    work by KPMG and the UK's Government Office for Science shows that resource exploitation could create a "perfect storm" of civilisational-ending crises by 2030.
    If things are really that bad, then we have a very good reason to cut the strings and let the lazy, useless and non-productive among us. More reasons to end welfare. Let natural selection take them.
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    re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:76]

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
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    Or we need to be finding a way off this rock. BTW, isn't that what NASA is supposed to be studying?
    There is no way "off this rock". The sooner we grasp that fact the better.

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    re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:76]

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    If things are really that bad, then we have a very good reason to cut the strings and let the lazy, useless and non-productive among us ?????. More reasons to end welfare. Let natural selection take them.
    Ending welfare will let "them" what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    There is no way "off this rock". The sooner we grasp that fact the better.
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    re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:76]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Ending welfare will let "them" what?
    Oops. Hate when that happens. Let them reap what the have sown. Die, if that is all they earn for themselves.
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    re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:76]

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Oops. Hate when that happens. Let them reap what the have sown. Die, if that is all they earn for themselves.
    If the breadwinner dies, runs off on a bender, gets hit by a bus, crashes their car or is killed in a terrorist attack then their dependents should be expected to support themselves? That is unlikely to win the hearts and minds of many voters but feel free to run on that platform plank.
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    re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:76]

    Anyone know how to get access to the actual study and not anyone's commentary about it?
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