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    Re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    It's time to kick them out of the social sciences
    They are not in social sciences. Did you read the study? How about at least the title page?

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    Re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    To answer your question then, the problem with their methodology is that it cannot suggest when civilization would collapse and it definitely cannot suggest that it will happen anytime soon
    So the bottom line is that you can to cite specific flaws only your dislike.

    Their conclusion itself reads much like a social theory paper, and thus makes me question if that was the conclusion they originally started with.

    The article even says that "collapse theories are considered fringe" and presents two other pieces of work that use the exact same methodology with much much less drastic conclusions.
    It's right in the OP.
    You misunderstood not only the study but its purpose. It was not meant to be a crystal ball and predict events and the time when they will take place. Any one with a bit of common sense and a basic knowledge of history can conclude that civilizations or segments of, and social orders came into existence and if they were viable they rose, reached an apex and then declined. What was in question is the existence of common causes considering the various time frames in history and their specific socio-economic conditions. The mathematical modeling used in this study found the common causes that transcend the various times and particular conditions and concluded that under current trends the collapse of the present system is also possible to a high degree.

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    Re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Because if there is one organization I really on fully in matters of financial and geopolitical economic forecasting, it's NASA.
    Did you read the study. Please do so so at least the title page, so total ignorance will not be so apparent in your post.

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    Re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    for those wondering, the headline from the Guardian does appear to be a bit off, the study may have received some funding from NASA but the organisation behind the study is another group - The National Socio-Environmental Synthesis Center (SESYNC)

    The paper may be found here
    Wow the left will Politicize just about everything.

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    Re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Single family dwelling, that may be true. But it does pay for housing. They get and deserve what they earn, nothing more. If that is a mat in a flop house, oh well, they should do something to improve themselves. If they are too lazy to, then they get what they earn.

    And it does, in many areas. Thats 1160+ a month which is less than the average for housing in almost every town in Texas and other states.
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    Re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:

    It should be a call to advance fusion energy, simply for the scale economies achievable by it.

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    Re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    So the bottom line is that you can to cite specific flaws only your dislike.

    You misunderstood not only the study but its purpose. It was not meant to be a crystal ball and predict events and the time when they will take place. Any one with a bit of common sense and a basic knowledge of history can conclude that civilizations or segments of, and social orders came into existence and if they were viable they rose, reached an apex and then declined. What was in question is the existence of common causes considering the various time frames in history and their specific socio-economic conditions. The mathematical modeling used in this study found the common causes that transcend the various times and particular conditions and concluded that under current trends the collapse of the present system is also possible to a high degree.
    Yawn. This is not news. Why do people get all quivery when someone does a "study"? It's almost as if the heralds of global warming aren't doing the trick sufficiently.

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    Re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Just a 'few' items in this story to stir up discussion



    Items to discuss

    " high levels of economic stratification are linked directly to overconsumption of resources"

    under conditions "closely reflecting the reality of the world today... we find that collapse is difficult to avoid."

    how do we humans " reduce economic inequality" and also find a way " to dramatically reduce resource consumption "??

    work by KPMG and the UK's Government Office for Science shows that resource exploitation could create a "perfect storm" of civilisational-ending crises by 2030.
    This seems to be just more evidence of the politicization of NASA, rather than them focusing on their mission like they should.
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    Re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Sure, if you don't plan on eating.
    Then I guess they can take on roommates and split the costs.
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    Re: Nasa-funded study: industrial civilisation headed for 'irreversible collapse'?[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The NASA mission has now morphed from running the national space shuttle service to conducting income inequality studies? It may be time to defund this bunch of "experts".
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