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Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group[W:157]

Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

How would Bush's IQ have anything at all to do with finding Bin Laden? It would be the intelligence network that would do that. And you call others partisan hacks?

Where did i say anything about bush's IQ?. Reread the post i responded to and understand the context.
 
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You do understand the bin Laden capture was based on intelligence that began during Bush's term, right?

And now your dear leader has decided we need to reduce military spending and troop numbers. How perfectly convenient for the enemy that is.

False. That was just bs spewed all over fox news by bush's failed cronies. Bush never had any intelligence on bin laden. And obama hasn't reduced military spending at all. You do know there are two wars ending in his administration?
 
Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

Moscow (AFP) - A United States surveillance drone has been intercepted above the Ukranian region of Crimea, a Russian state arms and technology group said Friday.

"The drone was flying at about 4,000 metres (12,000 feet) and was virtually invisible from the ground. It was possible to break the link with US operators with complex radio-electronic" technology, said Rostec in a statement. The drone fell "almost intact into the hands of self-defence forces" added Rostec, which said it had manufactured the equipment used to down the aircraft, but did not specify who was operating it.

Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

What? We wouldn't use drones all over the world just because we can. And certainly we'd consider that using them against a country more technologically advanced than the nations we've bombed to dirt in the ME may cause capture or destruction of the drone because they'd actually have counter measures. No, not at all.
 
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False. That was just bs spewed all over fox news by bush's failed cronies.

I believe that both Presidents deserve credit where credit is due on OBL. Bush, for keeping up pressure on AQ, and allowing our intel community to gather intel that proved useful for President Obama. And Obama, for making good on the promise of getting him if possible.

Bush never had any intelligence on bin laden.

That simply is not true.

And obama hasn't reduced military spending at all.

Again not true.

You do know there are two wars ending in his administration?

Running because it's too hard is not ending with honor.
 
Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

So whats the chump in chief going to do now? Nothing, thats what.
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For shooting down a drone? Who cares?

Sanctions, however, is about the only practical / appropriate tool in the toolbag. Do you have another idea?
 
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Thats exactly the point. I'd argue Putin knows Obama isn't going to do a damn thing, so he's comfortable punking the US.

Most people in America don't want him to do a damn thing about it, so I am not sure why you are beating up on Obama in particular. Seems to me that the majority of Americans are bigger than Obama and they should be your target for namecalling, etc.

As for me, I don't give two ****s about Crimea. I don't want Obama to 'be tough' about it. Yeah, do some sanctions, but let the Europeans lead. Its their back yard, we will follow and support them. If they want to go to war, maybe we can assist some. Now, call me a ***** if you want, but good god give the OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA thing a rest. You are so transparent it is pathetic.
 
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Where did i say anything about bush's IQ?. Reread the post i responded to and understand the context.

Here is the quote of what you wrote: "If he had been smarter he wouldn't have made the dumb statement"
 
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Drone gets shot down=obama's fault? :roll:

Here come the apologists, guess he inherited the problem. It's Bush's fault. :roll:
 
Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

Here is the quote of what you wrote: "If he had been smarter he wouldn't have made the dumb statement"

I didn't write that. Someone else did. Please don't misquote me.
 
Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

Keep telling yourself that.

Um... OK.

Let's see.. since there is no difference, you can send me a half million bucks, and I'll send you a thousand.

Deal?
 
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A little bit of advice. If you want to be taken seriously, don't look at Wikipedia as a source.

Its funny that when I was in medical school my attending told me that wikipedia is actually a great source (especially since it requires citations) and is usually right.

Your view is a bit dated, and if there is any part of that link you dispute, heres where you put up. I wont hold my breath.
 
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What's the conflict. Was Obama controlling the drone. What could Obama say or do that would pull your skirt back down?

If Obama was actually an effective and respected leader, he wouldnt have to do a thing, but he's an open book and the worlds thugs have their way with him.

He tried (and again failed) to talk tough about Russia saying there would be repercussions. Today he cancelled the visas of 8 or so Russian officials. As you can see, he's a chump doing what chumps do. :doh
 
Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

You do understand the bin Laden capture was based on intelligence that began during Bush's term, right?

And now your dear leader has decided we need to reduce military spending and troop numbers. How perfectly convenient for the enemy that is.

Liberals define success as feeling good about failure. :doh
 
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You're a good example of folks that believe what they want to believe they are so partisan.

And I suppose you believe Bush did a better job when Georgia was forcefully invaded.

News Flash: There were no sanctions over Georgia when Bush was president. Several countries threatened Russia with sanctions but none delivered. Bush and Cheney didn't do squat except run their mouths.

Conversely with our present president, in the case of the Ukraine, the U.S did not waste time with sanctions. Obama signed an executive order only a few days after his first warning. Sanctions are going forward! And they will hurt Russia and Russian's stock market is already fearing the future. The Crimea is history for Ukraine but at least Putin may think twice about invading the rest of the Ukraine.

This may shock you, but George Bush had his own problems. He as well as europe should have been more forceful towards Russia during the Georgian invasion. But he wasn't-of course he was busy fighting and in the winding down of the successful troop surge that Obama opposed at that time.

The fact that Obama is a weak leader is why Russia is comfortable doing as it pleases.
 
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If he had been smarter he wouldn't have made the dumb statement he didn't care if Bin Laden was found or not. If I had been an operative at the time, risking my neck to find Bin Laden, I would have thought, **** it the president doesn't even care.

You have precisely missed the point, Bush wasn't saying he "didn't care", he said (very clearly) that the war was about much more than one man, and that OBL had been marginalized. Please try to read up on these things before you comment, otherwise people might think you are a bit of a daydream johnny.
 
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That would be Johnson, not Kennedy. They shot Kennedy before he could make the decision to go to war or not go to war. He most likely would not have gone to war, already having proven his "balls" in the Cuban missile crisis.

Which brings up the question of how many wars have been fought to prove one leader or the other had balls, but then, that's another issue.

You are absolutely incorrect about this.
 
Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

What? We wouldn't use drones all over the world just because we can. And certainly we'd consider that using them against a country more technologically advanced than the nations we've bombed to dirt in the ME may cause capture or destruction of the drone because they'd actually have counter measures. No, not at all.

We were using them in Ukraine. Russia downed the drone IN UKRAINE. Please read the op.
 
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For shooting down a drone? Who cares?

Sanctions, however, is about the only practical / appropriate tool in the toolbag. Do you have another idea?

This is a diplomatic incident. Russia attacking our military over another country. This action has very specific meaning, and Putin knows it.
 
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Most people in America don't want him to do a damn thing about it, so I am not sure why you are beating up on Obama in particular. Seems to me that the majority of Americans are bigger than Obama and they should be your target for namecalling, etc.

As for me, I don't give two ****s about Crimea. I don't want Obama to 'be tough' about it. Yeah, do some sanctions, but let the Europeans lead. Its their back yard, we will follow and support them. If they want to go to war, maybe we can assist some. Now, call me a ***** if you want, but good god give the OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA thing a rest. You are so transparent it is pathetic.

Im inclined to let europe take care of itself, perhaps they would enjoy being putins dinner.
 
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Im inclined to let europe take care of itself, perhaps they would enjoy being putins dinner.

That is not what I said. I said let Europe take care of Ukraine. That is quite a different thing. Trying to twist what people actually have said is an admission that you have nothing of worth the say for yourself. You are really not that clever.
 
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Its funny that when I was in medical school my attending told me that wikipedia is actually a great source (especially since it requires citations) and is usually right.

Your view is a bit dated, and if there is any part of that link you dispute, heres where you put up. I wont hold my breath.

I guess you went the DO route. Or maybe had to go to the Caribbean.
 
Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

That is not what I said. I said let Europe take care of Ukraine. That is quite a different thing. Trying to twist what people actually have said is an admission that you have nothing of worth the say for yourself. You are really not that clever.

I think the spirit of my comment still stands. The US has been protecting the west for far too long, with very little in return. Instead of spending on a military, they have hid behind America's. I think some time dealing with Putin alone (as well as any other threats) might allow for some reflection. Europe needs us more than we need it.
 
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