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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    You ever thought of doing this stuff as a stand-up show? Hitler is a socialist because he called himself a 'National Socialist'? So I guess we should accept that North Korea really is a democratic republic.

    What unintentional irony - you make an entire argument that Stalin is worse than Hitler because he killed more people, or that Pol Pot is worse because he killed a greater percentage, then try the "this isn't about maths" line. That about as weak as it gets.
    National socialism is just the far right of the marxist spectrum of fail. Own it.

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Progressives claimed they diseased them with blankets yet so many "Europeans" died of disease...

    The funny part was the only clean drinking water they had was beer, and whiskey which they had to stop for, and which is why they stopped - but that will be a fun story later.

    Progressive historians just make **** up....

    It's fun to debate them especially on this issue considering it's common knowledge that not a damn person knew how disease was spread for the last 1800 years (arguably).

    The best part is that the progressives act like the "Europeans" were coming to assassinate the indigenous tribes via premeditated murder just because they didn't like them and they were racist. As if they were looking for a bunch of American Indians in the first place.....

    Let me ask a progressive this? - beyond a fetus - would you murder someone for no reason? so why the hell do you think the "Europeans" allegedly did???
    Its cultural marxism. Marxism failed, so they seek change through cultural institutions like the media, hollywood, and the schools. All are intended to leave you with the impression that the US is a horrible place. Thats the plan.

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Exactly. Socialism is an economic model in which the state (government) owns the means of production. Nazism is also an extreme authoritarian system.

    So, if we're to compare modern day socialists to Nazis, then let's by all means compare all authoritarian positions with Nazism as well: war on drugs, gay marriage, abortion, whatever the authoritarian backed issues of the day may be.
    There is a huge spectrum of socialism. Compare middle eastern socialism to eastern socialism for example. You may wish to put each type into a specific category, but the fact remains that national socialists believed very much that they were socialists, and despised soviet socialism.

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Modern socialists/communists are pseudo-capitalists and totalitarians...

    They're a new breed, which is why the attempted to call themselves "New Democrats" and which is why they continue to change the definition of words like "climate change" and "global warming."

    I suppose it's difficult to define a party that continually "progresses" or changes every 2-seconds due to the fact they're running away from denial.
    Indeed, they have had to adopt capitalist traits to stay in existence. To me this makes the case for capitalism.

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    We need an alloy of capitalism and socialism, just as alloys of certain metals have superior properties.

    But the socialism must be NOT for the corporations as it is now, but rather for the people, as in "government of, by and for the people"
    How are you a "libertarian"? How is the state confiscating and redistributing wealth in any way consistent with libertarianism?

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Indeed, they have had to adopt capitalist traits to stay in existence. To me this makes the case for capitalism.
    They may be able to tyrannically legislate but they cant come after me.

    I believe many feel the same about Obamacare.

    What they gong to do ram my house with a tank like they did with David Koresh? light my house on fire?

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    There is a huge spectrum of socialism. Compare middle eastern socialism to eastern socialism for example. You may wish to put each type into a specific category, but the fact remains that national socialists believed very much that they were socialists, and despised soviet socialism.
    Socialism means state ownership of the means of production. It is an economic system that could go along with many different political models, but there is really only one kind of socialism. If the means of production are privately owned, then that is not socialism If they are government owned, then that's socialism. If some of them are state owned, then that is a mixture.
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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Socialism means state ownership of the means of production. It is an economic system that could go along with many different political models, but there is really only one kind of socialism. If the means of production are privately owned, then that is not socialism If they are government owned, then that's socialism. If some of them are state owned, then that is a mixture.
    And fascism is state control over privately owned means of production. In both the state is supreme (though the nazi's also believe their race supreme, a difference from the italian fascists) , and both believe in redistribution. National socialism is just one of many types of socialism.

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    They may be able to tyrannically legislate but they cant come after me.

    I believe many feel the same about Obamacare.

    What they gong to do ram my house with a tank like they did with David Koresh? light my house on fire?
    They would like you to think so. A bad law is a bad law.

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    They would like you to think so. A bad law is a bad law.
    They don't have the balls to pull another one of those fiasco's.

    Another Waco or Ruby Ridge event is civil war for these clowns (meaning I don't believe the people will tolerate it.) Ruby Ridge almost was a civil war... I don't know if most people know this but the locals in Ruby were about mow down the FBI and the ATF..... They were really pissed off people.

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