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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Because im not a "pure libertarian" and its justified by the Constitution. War Powers Resolution on the other hand im purely against.
    War powers are strictly for the defense of the United States, and only existed due to limited communication. These days war powers are moot, because communication is not a problem.

    War powers weren't even meant to aggressively attack a nation, they were meant to summon an army/navy for self defense.

    Some presidents just got a bit to "liberal" with their new found power(s) - and that was wrong.

    And it wasn't Nixon - it was FDR, JFK, LBJ, George Bush, Obama (I could go through the list).......

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    War powers are strictly for the defense of the United States, and only existed due to limited communication. These days war powers are moot, because communication is not a problem.
    See thing is "defense" is very very very narrow.

    War powers weren't even meant to aggressively attack a nation, they were meant to summon an army/navy for self defense.
    But then again we passed it during the vietnam war....

    [QUOTE[Some presidents just got a bit to "liberal" with their new found power(s) - and that was wrong.

    And it wasn't Nixon - it was FDR, JFK, LBJ, George Bush, Obama (I could go through the list).......[/QUOTE]

    War powers resolution was passed during the Nixon years...


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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    See thing is "defense" is very very very narrow.



    But then again we passed it during the vietnam war....

    [QUOTE[Some presidents just got a bit to "liberal" with their new found power(s) - and that was wrong.

    And it wasn't Nixon - it was FDR, JFK, LBJ, George Bush, Obama (I could go through the list).......
    War powers resolution was passed during the Nixon years...[/QUOTE]

    You do realize what year Nixon was elected president do you?

    Our first troops went in to Nam in 1955 under Eisenhower and we didn't leave Nam until the fall of Saigon in 1975?

    So Eisenhower, JFK, LBJ THEN NIXION in 1969..... Yeah a full 14-years after we went into Nam.

    Lets also not forget it was JFK who really escalated Nam, then LBJ took it into full swing.

    You're wrong about a lot of other things but lets start with this.

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    They wish they were dictators - they're no better than Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao (I could go on forever).... They have no respect for individual liberties.

    It's scary to think in the United States we have 100-150 million collectivists with their own vision of what a utopia is, while real patriots only have one and that is dictated by the Bill of Rights and Constitution. That is what separates patriots from the progressive collectivist socialists.

    Furthermore, they've tried their collectivist utopia several times and it has not lasted more than 70 years, while the US Constitution and Bill of Rights has been standing for the last 250 years, not to mention the Magna Carta which has stood as a prerequisite to our founding documents for 700 years.

    I'm sure what I just posted was never covered in any of these collectivists history classes.
    Damn straight. And dont forget the deaths of 100 million plus people, plus those who had to die to fight them. They always think they are one law away from utopia.

    Estimated number of victims[edit]
    In the introduction, editor Stéphane Courtois states that "...Communist regimes... turned mass crime into a full-blown system of government"[3]. He claims that a death toll totals 94 million[4]. The breakdown of the number of deaths given by Courtois is as follows:

    65 million in the People's Republic of China
    20 million in the Soviet Union
    2 million in Cambodia
    2 million in North Korea
    1.7 million in Africa
    1.5 million in Afghanistan
    1 million in the Communist states of Eastern Europe
    1 million in Vietnam
    150,000 in Latin America (mainly Cuba)
    10,000 deaths "resulting from actions of the international Communist movement and Communist parties not in power."[4]
    Courtois claims that Communist regimes are responsible for a greater number of deaths than any other political ideal or movement, including Nazism. The statistics of victims includes executions, famine, deaths resulting from deportations, physical confinement, or through forced labor.
    The Black Book of Communism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Damn straight. And dont forget the deaths of 100 million plus people, plus those who had to die to fight them. They always think they are one law away from utopia.
    Way more than 100 million.

    6 million for Hitler
    40-60 million for Stalin
    40 million for Mao
    3 million for Pol Pot (half the population)
    Who knows for Vietnam or the rest of the "USSR" after the wars..
    Of course you have Che Guevara and his killer rampage death squads..

    Over 70 years it's possible it's close to 250,000,000 IMO due to famine, purges or executions etc due to communism..

    It is very depressing to think about...

    Pol Pot was evil - the worst of them all.

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Way more than 100 million.

    6 million for Hitler
    That's funny. I always kinda held Hitler responsible for WWII. Who do you think was responsible for it?
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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Way more than 100 million.

    6 million for Hitler
    40-60 million for Stalin
    40 million for Mao
    3 million for Pol Pot (half the population)
    Who knows for Vietnam or the rest of the "USSR" after the wars..
    Of course you have Che Guevara and his killer rampage death squads..

    Over 70 years it's possible it's close to 250,000,000 IMO due to famine, purges or executions etc due to communism..

    It is very depressing to think about...

    Pol Pot was evil - the worst of them all.
    A few day back I watched a late 70's BBC doc on Pol Pot. Im a Paramedic, and that **** will give you nightmares.

    Communism is a mother****er. Come to think about it, socialism in general is.

    It all stems from the flawed belief that all people are or ever could be equal. And for most, it cuts down your soul each and every day. Dont even get me started on life in east germany, czechoslovakia, etc.

    And another thing-im tired of leftists claiming that the nazi's were not socialists, or comparing them to the American conservatives.

    God damn it...

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    That's funny. I always kinda held Hitler responsible for WWII. Who do you think was responsible for it?
    A lot of conspiracy theories but I still believe Hitler was the main aggressor. Stalin still murdered or led directly to the death of 10x more people tho.

    Of course during his "final push" to seize Hitler he used most of his troops as cannon fodder.

    Over the years tho Stalin was the real Hitler.... I suppose Lenin started it all tho, maybe Marx.

    Stalin was just as brutal as Hitler.

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    That's funny. I always kinda held Hitler responsible for WWII. Who do you think was responsible for it?
    Nothing about socialism is funny.

    You know whats not funny? What Stalin, did to his people before and after ww2. Try as you might-socialism is more than Hitler-and lefties need to acknowledge it.

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    A lot of conspiracy theories but I still believe Hitler was the main aggressor. Stalin still murdered or led directly to the death of 10x more people tho.

    Of course during his "final push" to seize Hitler he used most of his troops as cannon fodder.

    Over the years tho Stalin was the real Hitler.... I suppose Lenin started it all tho, maybe Marx.

    Stalin was just as brutal as Hitler.
    Stalin, Lenin, and Marx. There are differences but the message is the same-death for those who dare disagree, and Im ****ing tired of those who forget bout them.

    Capitalism has proven itself many times over. And yet still we have echo of the great socialist leaders in our own American left wing. **** that, people will fall for bling but the fact is its not worth dying over a discredited marxist philosophy.

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