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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Well considering Obama has already stated he has no interest in the opinion of Congress (only the Senate)
    Really he did? Are you talking about executive actions? Because Obama is pretty low on the modern totem poll when it comes to the use of that power..

    and that the United States has not used Congress to declare war on any nation since Korea - YES as a matter of fact it is on the president - especially when the president has not asked congress to fund any military action......
    War powers resolution is Obama's fault? I mean has an POTUS since Nixon even challenged this? Or offered to repeal it? Im all in favor of repealing it, but seriously?


    Yes it is ALL OBAMA in this case. He is after all the head of the military, and he's the one giving the orders or allowing his generals to make their own decisions through his liberalism with them.
    So still... Everything is Obama's fault card..


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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Really he did? Are you talking about executive actions? Because Obama is pretty low on the modern totem poll when it comes to the use of that power..


    War powers resolution is Obama's fault? I mean has an POTUS since Nixon even challenged this? Or offered to repeal it? Im all in favor of repealing it, but seriously?



    So still... Everything is Obama's fault card..
    Well considering he is solely using those powers and not consulting anyone - absolutely it's his fault.

    It's not exactly like these are democratic decisions being made.

    When he does whatever the **** he wants like he stated he was going to do then it is his fault.

    Oh and BTW, only an asshole tyrant would go tell 535 (435 House and 100 Senate) representatives to "piss off" - who the **** does Obama think he is Caligula?

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Well considering he is solely using those powers and not consulting anyone - absolutely it's his fault.

    It's not exactly like these are democratic decisions being made.

    When he does whatever the **** he wants like he stated he was going to do then it is his fault.


    So you disagree with the constitutional action of executive orders?
    Better start hating on everyone
    President
    Term
    Total Orders1

    EO Number Range

    George Washington Total 8 unnumbered

    John Adams
    Total

    1 unnumbered

    Thomas Jefferson Total 4 unnumbered

    James Madison
    Total

    1 unnumbered

    James Monroe Total
    1
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    John Quincy Adams
    Total

    3 unnumbered

    Andrew Jackson Total
    12
    unnumbered

    Martin van Buren
    Total

    10 unnumbered

    William Henry Harrison Total
    0
    unnumbered

    John Tyler
    Total

    17 unnumbered

    James K. Polk Total
    18
    unnumbered

    Zachary Taylor Total 5 unnumbered

    Millard Fillmore Total 12 unnumbered

    Franklin Pierce
    Total

    35
    unnumbered

    James Buchanan Total 16 unnumbered

    Abraham Lincoln
    Total

    48 unnumbered

    Andrew Johnson Total
    79
    unnumbered

    Ulysses S. Grant
    Total

    217 unnumbered

    Rutherford B. Hayes Total
    92
    unnumbered

    James Garfield Total 6 unnumbered

    Chester Arthur Total 96 unnumbered

    Grover Cleveland - I
    Total

    113 unnumbered

    Benjamin Harrison Total
    143
    unnumbered

    Grover Cleveland - II
    Total

    140 unnumbered

    William McKinley Total
    185
    unnumbered

    Theodore Roosevelt
    Total

    1,081

    William Howard Taft Total
    724


    Woodrow Wilson
    Total

    1,803

    Warren G. Harding Total
    522


    Calvin Coolidge
    Total

    1,203

    Herbert Hoover Total 968 5075 - 6070

    Franklin D. Roosevelt
    Total

    3,522 6071 - 9537

    Harry S. Truman Total
    907
    9538 - 10431
    I 504 9538 - 10029
    II 403 10030 - 10431

    Dwight D. Eisenhower
    Total

    484 10432 - 10913
    I 266 10432 - 10695-A
    II 218 10696 - 10913

    John F. Kennedy Total 214 10914 - 11127

    Lyndon B. Johnson
    Total

    325
    11128 - 11451

    Richard Nixon Total 346 11452 - 11797
    I 247 11452 - 11698
    II 99 11699 - 11797

    Gerald R. Ford
    Total

    169
    11798 - 11966

    Jimmy Carter Total 320 11967 - 12286

    Ronald Reagan
    Total

    381
    12287 - 12667
    I 213 12287 - 12499
    II 168 12500 - 12667

    George Bush Total 166 12668 - 12833

    William J. Clinton
    Total

    364 12834 - 13197
    I 200 12834 - 13033
    II 164 13034 - 13197

    George W. Bush Total
    291
    13198 - 13488
    I 173 13198 - 13370
    II 118 13371 - 13488

    Barack Obama
    Total

    168 13489 - 13656...
    I 147 13489 - 13635
    II 21 13636 - 13656...
    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/orders.php

    When he does whatever the **** he wants like he stated he was going to do then it is his fault.
    I was sooo upset in 1789!!!
    I was soo upset!
    LEARN WHAT AN EXECUTIVE ORDER AFFECT!
    Oh and BTW, only an asshole would go tell 535 (435 House and 100 Senate) representatives to "piss off" - who the **** does Obama think he is Caligula?
    Apparently some of our founding fathers....


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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I think it's remarkable they don't even understand how government works yet they're so pro government - makes no damn sense and it's highly ironic.

    But yeah it is funny how they claim Obama was behind the assassination of OBL (as if he personally shot the terrorist scum), but if a drone is shot down he had nothing to do with it.
    Its selective logic. And they demonstrate it daily.

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Well considering he is solely using those powers and not consulting anyone - absolutely it's his fault.

    It's not exactly like these are democratic decisions being made.

    When he does whatever the **** he wants like he stated he was going to do then it is his fault.

    Oh and BTW, only an asshole tyrant would go tell 535 (435 House and 100 Senate) representatives to "piss off" - who the **** does Obama think he is Caligula?
    They are pocket dictators, almost to a man.

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    So you disagree with the constitutional action of executive orders?
    Better start hating on everyone

    Executive Orders


    I was sooo upset in 1789!!!
    I was soo upset!
    LEARN WHAT AN EXECUTIVE ORDER AFFECT!

    Apparently some of our founding fathers....
    As a libertarian I actually do disagree with executive orders.

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    As a libertarian I actually do disagree with executive orders.
    Well your one of the few libertarians who is actually a true libertarian/microtarian. I congratulate you for actually being true to your beliefs.


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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    They are pocket dictators, almost to a man.
    They wish they were dictators - they're no better than Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao (I could go on forever).... They have no respect for individual liberties.

    It's scary to think in the United States we have 100-150 million collectivists with their own vision of what a utopia is, while real patriots only have one and that is dictated by the Bill of Rights and Constitution. That is what separates patriots from the progressive collectivist socialists.

    Furthermore, they've tried their collectivist utopia several times and it has not lasted more than 70 years, while the US Constitution and Bill of Rights has been standing for the last 250 years, not to mention the Magna Carta which has stood as a prerequisite to our founding documents for 700 years.

    I'm sure what I just posted was never covered in any of these collectivists history classes.

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Well your one of the few libertarians who is actually a true libertarian/microtarian. I congratulate you for actually being true to your beliefs.
    Thank you for that.

    Now why don't you join the club?

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Thank you for that.

    Now why don't you join the club?
    Because im not a "pure libertarian" and its justified by the Constitution. War Powers Resolution on the other hand im purely against.


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