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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    "Neo-Nazi?"

    What you like is Putin doing another Stalin purge of Tartar Muslims - the only reason 54% of Crimea is "ethic" Russian - after Stalin's purge - estimated to have killed 60% of all Tartar Muslims in Crimea of those "relocated."

    So genocide is fine with you, provided it is someone called "a socialist" rather than a "Neo-Nazi."

    How many people has your so-called illegal Ukraine government "relocated."

    And explain how conflicts within Ukraine justifies another country seizing part of Crimea declaring they own that territory now?

    If it was "Neo-Nazis" with Putin to the rescue, why did every Jewish organization in Ukraine, including Crimea, sign a letter opposing Putin's actions and asking him to get Russian troops out? Because Jews love Nazi's?

    You actually believe Putin, don't you?
    Nobodies supporting a purge, and the continual Putin/Stalin/Hitler comparisons are a huge fail.

    Putins legitimacy stands on the FACT that the West, having failed to draw Ukraine farther to the West through negotiations, threw a fit and as Nuland stated, "**** the EU", they don't know how to get **** done, Yats is our man, and worked that to the end. Russia knows what went down, they clearly aren't going to take it, so you may as well get back to your rat killing, Putin has this covered.
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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Again w/the "our". What's w/posters these days?

    They are not our drones. We have no control over them. They are the govt.'s drones.
    They are purchased by OUR government using OUR money, they are OURS.
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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    They are purchased by OUR government using OUR money, they are OURS.
    If they keep nosing around, I'm sure Russia will continue to down them.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    He is only doing as he is told.

    Like his predecessor, he is a sock puppet, advancing the agenda of those behind the curtains.

    The last POTUS to be contrary to the powers-that-be caught a few rounds while riding in a convertible.
    This is a bit too tin foil hat for me.

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    They are purchased by OUR government using OUR money, they are OURS.
    Isnt it amazing to see how little context or insight the lefties here appear to have? The govt's drone...

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Again w/the "our". What's w/posters these days?

    They are not our drones. We have no control over them. They are the govt.'s drones.

    In a democracy, the people and the govt are not so separate. Stop trying to equate backwards Muslim hellholes with the US.

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    He is only doing as he is told.

    Like his predecessor, he is a sock puppet, advancing the agenda of those behind the curtains.
    If that's the case, you'd be pretty disappointed with all of our Presidents. Then again, I think most libertarians would be depressed if they studied more history.

    The last POTUS to be contrary to the powers-that-be caught a few rounds while riding in a convertible.
    Kennedy? Ha, man, Kennedy was no Taft or Roosevelt (either namesake). The man hardly acted all that against "the powers that be" (the illustrious vague forces "at work" that every other President has had to deal with).

    Nuclear weapon theory: didn't convert to the RAND idea (but then again, hardly any leader did), but certainly employed (check our who Bob hired) and entertained their ideas for a great damn long time (unlike his predecessor). Sure Lemay talked with apocalyptic fervor in his smoke-filled lungs, but the dude wasn't much being adhered to to begin with.

    Communism: Bought into the domino theory. Quite hawkish. Good for the defense industry.

    Civil Rights: Talked the good talk, but did very little follow-through. That's pretty good convenience for another "power," right?

    Budgets? Didn't try to bully his way through Congress much for the Democrats all that often.

    Cuba? Didn't ask too many questions at first. Didn't like the embarrassment all that much, but the guy was no Grover Cleveland on the matter of intervention and acquisition either.

    But yeah, I guess because someone kills him, it's because he was such a change agent.
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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    First of all, it was identified as MQ-5B. If true, that would make it a MQ-5 Hunter drone which is at least 20 tears old. These were replaced by the MQ-7 series and the current MQ-9 series.

    There are civilian drones now that are far more sophisticated than an old MQ-5. Besides that, the MQ-5 has limited range that excludes it from flying from Bavaria, Germany to Crimea.

    It could be that a neighbor NATO state (Poland or Romania) had one of these dinosaurs, but I highly doubt that the US military would use it.

    It was also reported that Rostec.ru had a picture of the downed drone on their website. I visited the website and couldn't find any such picture or even a mention of a downed drone.

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    This is a bit too tin foil hat for me.
    Just guessing, but probably the whole idea of NSA warrantless searches and CIA torture was a bit too tinfoil hat for you too...

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    If that's the case, you'd be pretty disappointed with all of our Presidents. Then again, I think most libertarians would be depressed if they studied more history.



    Kennedy? Ha, man, Kennedy was no Taft or Roosevelt (either namesake). The man hardly acted all that against "the powers that be" (the illustrious vague forces "at work" that every other President has had to deal with).

    Nuclear weapon theory: didn't convert to the RAND idea (but then again, hardly any leader did), but certainly employed (check our who Bob hired) and entertained their ideas for a great damn long time (unlike his predecessor). Sure Lemay talked with apocalyptic fervor in his smoke-filled lungs, but the dude wasn't much being adhered to to begin with.

    Communism: Bought into the domino theory. Quite hawkish. Good for the defense industry.

    Civil Rights: Talked the good talk, but did very little follow-through. That's pretty good convenience for another "power," right?

    Budgets? Didn't try to bully his way through Congress much for the Democrats all that often.

    Cuba? Didn't ask too many questions at first. Didn't like the embarrassment all that much, but the guy was no Grover Cleveland on the matter of intervention and acquisition either.

    But yeah, I guess because someone kills him, it's because he was such a change agent.
    Yes, I have been most disappointed with the various presidents since Carter, and I actually voted against Carter.

    Are you aware of Kennedy's plans for the CIA? Are you aware of the letter to editor from Harry Truman regarding the CIA, published just a few months after Kennedy's assassination? Did you ever read MacNamara's "Fog Of War"?

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