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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Exactly, and it was supported by the US. US foreign policy follows an "end justifies the means" mentality.
    Do you have support for any of this or do you fantasize your facts?

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Your only consistency is in being wrong.
    That's quite clever, coming from a group not well known for their sense of humor.

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    How can an illegitimate government, who took control through a violent coup, evicting the elected president, approve anything. Your sense of reason is troubled.
    They are having elections on May 25, 2014. Why get all excited now? The Ukrainians can sort it all out.

    The evicted President was corrupt on a scale seldom seen anywhere, except perhaps in Russia.

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    No, they don't.

    No, it doesn't.

    I think that were I a Ukrainian, I may well have participated in the action against the Yanukovich régime, but I wouldn't have pretended that what we were engaged in was democratic in itself. It was an undemocratic means to a democratic end. Having said that, there seems to be a wide stream of Ukrainian nationalist thinking whose commitment to democratic principles is shaky at best.
    Speaking of which...

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26653295

    It's events like this that make you think that Putin's claims about neo-Nazis being behind the coup may have some substance.
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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Speaking of which...

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26653295

    It's events like this that make you think that Putin's claims about neo-Nazis being behind the coup may have some substance.
    Neo Nazis?

    This would appear to be pro Russian propaganda during a time of great turmoil for the Ukrainian people. While preferring free media, having Russian celebrations concerning the annexation of Ukrainian territory may not be the sort of propaganda the Ukrainian people need just now, especially when there are further threats of incursions still existing.

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Neo Nazis?

    This would appear to be pro Russian propaganda during a time of great turmoil for the Ukrainian people. While preferring free media, having Russian celebrations concerning the annexation of Ukrainian territory may not be the sort of propaganda the Ukrainian people need just now, especially when there are further threats of incursions still existing.
    No doubt the BBC is totally in the pocket of Putin and those neo-Nazis in the film were just actors. Good job you were around to point this out.
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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Clinton tried a similar distraction. It did not work.
    If you're referring to Operation Desert Fox, you're mistaking possible side-effects with reasons for action.
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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    No, they don't.

    No, it doesn't.

    I think that were I a Ukrainian, I may well have participated in the action against the Yanukovich régime, but I wouldn't have pretended that what we were engaged in was democratic in itself. It was an undemocratic means to a democratic end. Having said that, there seems to be a wide stream of Ukrainian nationalist thinking whose commitment to democratic principles is shaky at best.
    So invasion by another nation is preferable. Sure it is.

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    So Obama has created a Ukrainian crisis for the purposes of distracting from his domestic woes. There's a forum for such theories.
    Obama's spectacular fail stands on its own and needs no conspiracy theory. He's losing his game of chicken.

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    How can an illegitimate government, who took control through a violent coup, evicting the elected president, approve anything. Your sense of reason is troubled.
    Says the guy that is fine with Russian invasion.

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