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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Ah no, it's still relevant. Russia has control over the drone. What do you expect our President to do in this situation, exactly? They have our technology, they embarrassed us a tiny bit, but what do you want, really? Stomp around demanding they "give it back"?
    Not really, it was a poor analogy.

    There was a time when the US had a strong leader who wasn't constantly punked by 2nd world thugs, and the US had a cohesive and strong foreign policy. These actions didn't occur. But now we have a chump in office, and so we can expect these things to get worse. Our allies are watching this.

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

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    Not really, it was a poor analogy.

    There was a time when the US had a strong leader who wasn't constantly punked by 2nd world thugs, and the US had a cohesive and strong foreign policy. These actions didn't occur. But now we have a chump in office, and so we can expect these things to get worse. Our allies are watching this.
    That's a really stupid thought. Here's why. When a spyplane would inevitably be shot down by an enemy, the U.S. covered up its operations, didn't press the matter, and went on its way until the only human part of the mess could be solved diplomatically. The Soviets capitalized on this embarrassment, which lasted for years, and even altered our perception of Soviet military might, further embarrassing Kennedy's campaign slogans once he was in office. This "we used to have a strong leader" crap is just pure nonsense.

    Go on, what's the President to do right now about this drone thing. The Russians have it, what's he to do about it? How does he make better of this so he doesn't become a "chump"?
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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    That's a really stupid thought. Here's why. When a spyplane would inevitably be shot down by an enemy, the U.S. covered up its operations, didn't press the matter, and went on its way until the only human part of the mess could be solved diplomatically. The Soviets capitalized on this embarrassment, which lasted for years, and even altered our perception of Soviet military might, further embarrassing Kennedy's campaign slogans once he was in office. This "we used to have a strong leader" crap is just pure nonsense.

    Go on, what's the President to do right now about this drone thing. The Russians have it, what's he to do about it? How does he make better of this so he doesn't become a "chump"?
    Like I said, our leader being weak has emboldened nations like Russia and China. Our allies trust the US less, and our enemies will fill the vacuum.

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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Like I said, our leader being weak has emboldened nations like Russia and China. Our allies trust the US less, and our enemies will fill the vacuum.
    Yes, you did say that, however, your first thought (in the second post) was:

    So whats the chump in chief going to do now? Nothing, thats what.
    What's he supposed to do? I thought this was a simple question to ask someone who demanded action, but apparently it's more difficult than I thought!
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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Bin Ladin wasn't killed. Every possible way to confirm he had been killed in the raid was promptly destroyed.
    Take it to the conspiracy board.
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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group[W:157]

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    Moscow (AFP) - A United States surveillance drone has been intercepted above the Ukranian region of Crimea, a Russian state arms and technology group said Friday.

    "The drone was flying at about 4,000 metres (12,000 feet) and was virtually invisible from the ground. It was possible to break the link with US operators with complex radio-electronic" technology, said Rostec in a statement. The drone fell "almost intact into the hands of self-defence forces" added Rostec, which said it had manufactured the equipment used to down the aircraft, but did not specify who was operating it.

    Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group
    I am going to file this with the reports that American paratroopers were marching in Crimea.
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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

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    You gotta remember, when someone is quite overtly rooting for (*******), they'll use whatever propaganda they can dredge up.
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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    I keep reading about how Kennedy was a strong leader who would have gotten us involved in Vietnam had he not been assassinated, and about how we need a strong leader today.

    I wonder just what war this strong leader should start for us today.
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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It is a matter for the US, as well as all other countries of the world, but it is not the responsibility of the US alone.



    BHO focusing on domestic problems hasn't led to a great deal of success. A diversion may be just what he needs. Comparisons between Putin and Hitler are inescapable and most everyone recognizes that.
    A BHO diversion is going to improve domestic problems???

    And no, it's not most everyone that sees a Putin/Hitler connection. Just those who don't want to miss a chance at war with Russia. Did you see the flack that Hillary Clinton took for making such a connection?
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    Re: Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Ronald Reagan also received the 'swift rebuke' treatment when he called Russia the "Evil Empire", though of course, like Hillary, he was quite correct.

    The only 'warmongering hawk' right now is Vladimir Putin. That should be clear enough to everyone, as are the comparisons between him and Hitler.

    Will Putin continue into the Ukraine to starve millions of Ukrainian people like one of his predecessors did? Or attempt a 'final solution'? Probably not in today's world because of spy satellites.. But his excuse for entering the Ukraine certainly remains similar to Hitler's.
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    NO, there is no similarity whatsoever, and you dismiss Western intrigue that sabotaged Putins fair and on top of the table negotiations with Ukraine. This is what you can deal with now.
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