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    Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

    Two major beer manufacturers on Friday dropped sponsorship of St. Patrick's Day parades in New York City and Boston to protest bans on gays marching openly.



    Sam Adams pulled out of Boston's parade, which takes place on Sunday, and Heineken yanked its support of the New York City parade, slated for Monday. Both parades are allowing gay groups to march but are banning signage about sexual orientation.

    Gay rights activists praised Heineken's decision.

    "Heineken sent the right message to LGBT youth, customers and employees who simply want to be part of the celebration," Sarah Kate Ellis, president of gay rights group GLAAD, said in a statement.

    A Heineken representative told CNBC on Friday: "We believe in equality for all. We are no longer a sponsor of Monday's parade."

    In February, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio announced that he would not be marching in this year's parade in support of the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community. Boston Mayor Martin Walsh has vowed not to attend the parade unless LGBT groups are allowed to march openly.....snip~

    Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's parades that ban openly gay marchers

    Seems all it took.....was a Facebook Page of Bars saying they would no longer Serve Sam Adams beer if they didn't pull their support for this St Patty's Day Parade. What are your thoughts upon the matter? Right thing to do or not?

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    Re: Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

    Absolutely the right thing to do. I hope more sponsors get on board though there's only a couple days left to do so.
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    Re: Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Look... I'm all for gay rights, anyone who's read what I've had to say on the subject will know I'm solid.

    But why exactly does St Paddies day need to have a gay section?

    St Paddies is a celebration of Irish Ancestry and culture and not to say that there never were any gay Irish people but it's not exactly like they were ever a herald of openness for gays or had any ground breaking social attitudes towards it in its history that would warrant a massive gay part of the parade...

    I dunno I just don't get this.
    I'm curious then if all of the persons in the parade are restricted from using banners or whatever to suggest who they are. I've often seen marching bands with their colors and school banners, and the VFW, and sports teams.... Why shouldn't this group be able to have their banners and signage?
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    Re: Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Two major beer manufacturers on Friday dropped sponsorship of St. Patrick's Day parades in New York City and Boston to protest bans on gays marching openly.



    Sam Adams pulled out of Boston's parade, which takes place on Sunday, and Heineken yanked its support of the New York City parade, slated for Monday. Both parades are allowing gay groups to march but are banning signage about sexual orientation.

    Gay rights activists praised Heineken's decision.

    "Heineken sent the right message to LGBT youth, customers and employees who simply want to be part of the celebration," Sarah Kate Ellis, president of gay rights group GLAAD, said in a statement.

    A Heineken representative told CNBC on Friday: "We believe in equality for all. We are no longer a sponsor of Monday's parade."

    In February, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio announced that he would not be marching in this year's parade in support of the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community. Boston Mayor Martin Walsh has vowed not to attend the parade unless LGBT groups are allowed to march openly.....snip~

    Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's parades that ban openly gay marchers

    Seems all it took.....was a Facebook Page of Bars saying they would no longer Serve Sam Adams beer if they didn't pull their support for this St Patty's Day Parade. What are your thoughts upon the matter? Right thing to do or not?
    Greetings, MMC.

    When you say "signage," do other marchers identify themselves by signs? If so, I have to agree with the beer makers, since not allowing one group to identify who they are is not only discriminatory, but unfair. One does not have to agree with a lifestyle to allow them to have the rights other groups have, as long as the signs are suitable for viewing by all age groups.

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    Re: Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, MMC.

    When you say "signage," do other marchers identify themselves by signs? If so, I have to agree with the beer makers, since not allowing one group to identify who they are is not only discriminatory, but unfair. One does not have to agree with a lifestyle to allow them to have the rights other groups have, as long as the signs are suitable for viewing by all age groups.
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    Re: Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

    I don't care what gays do in a parade - it's a free country and if they get permission by those sponsoring the parade then more power to them. I'm guessing though that these would be IRISH gay members? Otherwise, what exactly would be the point? I have no issue with bars refusing to sell certain beers as a protest - its the american way, nor would I fault a beer company for pulling their support for the parade on the basis of whatever.... Were someone to have a problem with gays being at the parade, they can choose not to participate and not to spend money as a personal protest I guess.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
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    Re: Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    I have not had enough coffee yet this morning to move swiftly! :

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    Hell I haven't been to sleep yet. I have a horrible case of insomnia and no mmj to assist with sleep the past few days. I think I'm on about hour 64.
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    Re: Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

    At this point, anyone still in the "Anti-Gay" mindset is pretty damn stupid. The only thing accomplished anymore is looking like an ass, and losing a battle already won.

    Why does anyone even care.

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    Re: Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Seems all it took.....was a Facebook Page of Bars saying they would no longer Serve Sam Adams beer if they didn't pull their support for this St Patty's Day Parade. What are your thoughts upon the matter? Right thing to do or not?

    I think it's pretty stupid. Sam Adams and Heineken aren't doing anything brave, just protecting their bottom line. If they did this 10 years ago, good on them. But it was only under threat and threat for a company like Heineken who's fighting to keep market share in the US..

    I also find it ironic people are up in arms about the policies in NYC and Boston. The holiday is St. Patrick's Day, a catholic holiday. It's religious in nature and will always be.
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