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Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

You keep saying this but it isn't true. It's a public event. A non-profit is the organizer, I would bet. Not the church and not a private group, it is a public event with a public organizer, even though it may not be a government organizer, per se.

It's open to the public to see. Every group that runs a St. Paddy's Day parade is a private group. To be a member of AoH requires to be Irish or of Irish ancestry and they collect dues. No different then an Eagles Club, Moose club or Elks club.

They pay for the services of the Government. Basically they are renting Government services. When Government services are rented they are defined as a private event. Like a motorcade for a funeral.

Here is another example of St. Paddy's parade being paid for privately, all of it.
 
You really think that $4000 pays for 20 cops and the street closures? Really? Not even close. It's nice that they paid a nominal fee, but that parade still happened on the public's dime.

It does for 2 hours.
 
Shame on both. This country is living in mortal fear of speaking it's mind. Threats of boycotts by corporations is Stalinist bull****. Say one wrong thing on the air and corporations fearing boycotts by XYZ group turn around and threaten boycotts of the person or program or network. Freedom of thought itself is in peril. This is no less than punishment for opinions.
 
Why? Because you want it? How about you change the Church? Or just wait for one more Pope.. if Saint Malachy is correct.. Rome will be burning.




Nope. It's not the right place to be "heard". It's not a political march now is it.. There are plenty of other marches for them to be heard. Hell, they have a whole month to be heard too. It's called June.





I have, patience must not be a virtue of yours.



Heya AC.....you know how the LGBT community activists is going to get around this, Right. Since they can't handle basic English.

They will push for an all Gay school so they can get their signage in.....while proving they can have one of the Best damn high school marching bands in the country.

Then they can say its a win win.....they got their way and Bested the majority of other kids in the country in their Marches.

Watch.....they will do it like the college bands and March in a way to spell out their political message in a non Political event. Just to show all how they have to be Openly known as Special.
 
I don't have to change the Church. I left the Church for a variety of reasons. If you remain a member of the Church, or really any organization, you either accept its tenets or you work to change them. If you aren't working to change them, you have accepted them.

Good for you. Or it also means I don't play church politics.

It's a march down a public street. So long as order is maintained, nobody should be allowed to decide what it is except for those who are participating.

So let me know what happens when you storm a motorcade for a funeral. ;)
 
Shame on both. This country is living in mortal fear of speaking it's mind. Threats of boycotts by corporations is Stalinist bull****. Say one wrong thing on the air and corporations fearing boycotts by XYZ group turn around and threaten boycotts of the person or program or network. Freedom of thought itself is in peril. This is no less than punishment for opinions.

give people access to mass media and this is on of the consequnces. the entire world now has a voice
 
Hell I haven't been to sleep yet. I have a horrible case of insomnia and no mmj to assist with sleep the past few days. I think I'm on about hour 64.

NyQuil works wonders for me personally.
 
So let me know what happens when you storm a motorcade for a funeral. ;)

It's like you don't read what I write. So long as order is maintained. That would tend to imply that nobody is storming anything. That said, if I feel like sliding into the middle of a motorcade behind the wheel of a car shaped like a giant pink dick, **** your motorcade. It's my street too.
 
It's open to the public to see. Every group that runs a St. Paddy's Day parade is a private group. To be a member of AoH requires to be Irish or of Irish ancestry and they collect dues. No different then an Eagles Club, Moose club or Elks club.

They pay for the services of the Government. Basically they are renting Government services. When Government services are rented they are defined as a private event. Like a motorcade for a funeral.

Here is another example of St. Paddy's parade being paid for privately, all of it.

Heya AC.....the event in Boston was sponsor by the South Boston Allied War Veterans Council.

Sam Adams beer manufacturer pulls out of South Boston St. Patrick’s Day parade

We were hopeful that both sides of this issue would be able to come to an agreement that would allow everyone, regardless of orientation, to participate in the parade,” The Boston Beer Company said in a statement. “But given the current status of the negotiations, we realize this may not be possible. We share these sentiments with Mayor Walsh, Congressman Lynch and others and therefore we will not participate in this year’s parade.”

This week, Boston Mayor Marty Walsh attempted to negotiate a compromise with parade organizers, which would allow a gay veterans group to march in the parade. The parade, which takes place on March 16, is organized by the South Boston Allied War Veterans Council.....snip~


This week, Boston Mayor Marty Walsh attempted to negotiate a compromise with parade organizers, which would allow a gay veterans group to march in the parade. The parade, which takes place on March 16, is organized by the South Boston Allied War Veterans Council.

Negotiations between Walsh and the veterans council reportedly broke down on Thursday. For its part, the council claims LGBT Veterans for Equality planned to march with only one actual veteran.

But even before the permit was rescinded, the group was saying the LGBT group could participate only as long as it did not include the word “gay” in any of its materials or clothing.....snip~

Sam Adams beer manufacturer pulls out of South Boston St. Patrick

As you can see from Sam Adams own words. The LGBT community activists are the ones that refused to negotiate.
 
Yeah 30 years ago with a Repub in NY. Go figure. Now Try looking at Chicago.....and that Political Activism with parades in a City Controlled by the Democratic Party for damn near over 70 years.

Now who put more BS into that game so to speak?

Uh.. no.. totally different Republicans, MMC. Noraid was a financier of Provos (Irish Republican Army)..PIRA are not even close to American Republican, but Irish Republican which is just Socialism with a gun.

Michael Flannery was Irish Volunteer and a hard ass Irish Republican. But at that time that's what Irish-Americans were focused on.. ignorance or not.
 
As you can see from Sam Adams own words. The LGBT community activists are the ones that refused to negotiate.

What part of "both sides" did you fail to understand?

What really gets me is that, with respect to Boston, this isn't just a group of random gay folks who want to march for the sake of marching. If they were I'd still be fine with it, but this is a group of gay veterans who want to identify themselves as gay while marching in a parade organized by a veteran's group.
 
What part of "both sides" did you fail to understand?

What really gets me is that, with respect to Boston, this isn't just a group of random gay folks who want to march for the sake of marching. If they were I'd still be fine with it, but this is a group of gay veterans who want to identify themselves as gay while marching in a parade organized by a veteran's group.

What part about them being told they could participate as long as they don't use any signage.....didnt come thru with the messaging? My point with it.....is the LGBT community doesn't come before any other groups. I am sure the activists for the gun issue and against would want to get in. Same with those for and against immigration and abortion. If none of them are in and there isn't any politicization. All were good with it.

So if it is good for all the Golden Gooses. Then to all for the Rainbow Ganders. Case should be closed and the LGBT community should get over it.....and figure it out not everything has to be politicized.
 
What part about them being told they could participate as long as they don't use any signage.....didnt come thru with the messaging? My point with it.....is the LGBT community doesn't come before any other groups. I am sure the activists for the gun issue and against would want to get in. Same with those for and against immigration and abortion. If none of them are in and there isn't any politicization. All were good with it.

So if it is good for all the Golden Gooses. Then to all for the Rainbow Ganders. Case should be closed and the LGBT community should get over it.....and figure it out not everything has to be politicized.

Whatever. Just don't pin this on one side using Sam Adam's words when Sam Adam's word didn't pin it on either side.
 
Yeah 30 years ago with a Repub in NY. Go figure. Now Try looking at Chicago.....and that Political Activism with parades in a City Controlled by the Democratic Party for damn near over 70 years.

Now who put more BS into that game so to speak?

Not a republican in the American political party sense, but an extreme political agitator in Northern Ireland.
 
Whatever. Just don't pin this on one side using Sam Adam's words when Sam Adam's word didn't pin it on either side.

Sam Adams first went with all could participate as long as there was no signage.....that was their stance. Then they pulled out after negotiations broke down. Bottomline.....who was bringing the issue. That's the side that gets it pinned upon. To me that's looking like the LGBT Activists. Not Sam Adams and others. So let them take the weight and let the Cameras bring the point home.....Repeatedly!
 
Sam Adams first went with all could participate as long as there was no signage.....that was their stance. Then they pulled out after negotiations broke down. Bottomline.....who was bringing the issue. That's the side that gets it pinned upon. To me that's looking like the LGBT Activists. Not Sam Adams and others. So let them take the weight and let the Cameras bring the point home.....Repeatedly!

Don't pin this on one side using Sam Adam's words when Sam Adam's word didn't pin it on either side.
 
Don't pin this on one side using Sam Adam's words when Sam Adam's word didn't pin it on either side.

I'm not.....I am using Sams Adams own words. Only way negotiations breakdown.....was due to the LGBT Activists not accepting the terms. Their fault.....theirs to take the blame since the fame was what they were looking for.
 
I'm not.....I am using Sams Adams own words. Only way negotiations breakdown.....was due to the LGBT Activists not accepting the terms. Their fault.....theirs to take the blame since the fame was what they were looking for.

You can't use Sam Adams own words to blame either side because Sam Adams didn't blame either side.
 
You can't use Sam Adams own words to blame either side because Sam Adams didn't blame either side.

Sure I can.....as if they agreed the participating sponsor would still be in the Parade. Now its a lose lose situation As other participating sponsors pull out too. Nobody wins.....whats suppose to be a fun time for all, and especially the lil kids with the wonderment of it all and the Old timers and the memories of traditions. Now even that is lost as there is now even less to see and enjoy.


Way to go LGBT.

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This is absolutely insane to me. A parade for St. Patrick's Day, and people are upset that they can't march with banners proclaiming there sexual preferences??? Then why is it a St. Patrick's Day parade at all, shouldn't just be a generic parade if there will be stuff like that?
 
Sure I can.....as if they agreed the participating sponsor would still be in the Parade.

"If they'd just given in" isn't a valid argument for blaming the breakdown of negotiations on one side when neither side has been named by the people you quoted as naming one side.
 
This is absolutely insane to me. A parade for St. Patrick's Day, and people are upset that they can't march with banners proclaiming there sexual preferences??? Then why is it a St. Patrick's Day parade at all, shouldn't just be a generic parade if there will be stuff like that?

Gay veterans were told they couldn't identify themselves as gay while marching in a parade organized by a veteran's group.
 
Gay veterans were told they couldn't identify themselves as gay while marching in a parade organized by a veteran's group.

What? It is a St. Patrick's Day parade still, no? Still don't see why anyone would expect a banner about their sexuality would be acceptable at a St. Patrick's Day parade. Don't they already have parades with that type of subject matter? Seems to me that their is some other motive involved here, since it is a Catholic Saint involved.
 
"If they'd just given in" isn't a valid argument for blaming the breakdown of negotiations on one side when neither side has been named by the people you quoted as naming one side.

And again, it goes back to the point of them ( The LGBT Activists ) being told they COULD participate.....but then they just had to be different than everybody else. That's what caused Sam Adams and others to pull out.

To validate.....the bar patronized by the LGBT put it up on faceplate/facebook that they would not serve Sam Adams if they participated.


Sam Adams made the announcement after coming under pressure from Club Cafe, a Boston bar patronized by the gay community. The bar threatened in a Facebook post on Thursday to stop pouring Sam Adams unless the company withdrew sponsorship......snip~

One can see what threats like that, could do to their business with how things go viral over the Net.....huh?
 
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