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    Re: Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

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    Re: Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I don't have much to say about it, really. Let them ban openly gay people. Who cares? And let people drop out who are offended by it, and I'll celebrate them. Seems like that's the American Way. Just publicize who's doing what and let public opinion sort it out.
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    Re: Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    So true.

    I mean, I can hardly count the number of times I thanked God I was able to find somebody to drive me home because I was not in a state to do so, myself, due to the effects of the typical St Paddy's day rituals.
    And if your Catholic you can thank God the Church allows such actions to be forgiven during Lent because they recognize St. Patrick's Day as a day of feast.

    If your not Catholic, what does it matter to you. To Catholics it's a day off Lent so the day is used wisely and has been since 1762 when the first Irish in the British Army celebrated a Pub in NYC.
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    Re: Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    "Libertarian" says free market economics is stupid.
    Where did I say that? All I said was they aren't doing it for noble reasons but one of saving their bottom line. Heineken isn't even a major player in the US market.
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    Re: Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Where did I say that? All I said was they aren't doing it for noble reasons but one of saving their bottom line. Heineken isn't even a major player in the US market.
    What difference does it make? Most of the time, when we're acting, for one reason or another we're acting in our own self-interest. Further, how do you claim to know the workings of others' minds? Judge the end result. Trying to ascribe motives is often like pissing in the wind.

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    Re: Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Two major beer manufacturers on Friday dropped sponsorship of St. Patrick's Day parades in New York City and Boston to protest bans on gays marching openly.



    Sam Adams pulled out of Boston's parade, which takes place on Sunday, and Heineken yanked its support of the New York City parade, slated for Monday. Both parades are allowing gay groups to march but are banning signage about sexual orientation.

    Gay rights activists praised Heineken's decision.

    "Heineken sent the right message to LGBT youth, customers and employees who simply want to be part of the celebration," Sarah Kate Ellis, president of gay rights group GLAAD, said in a statement.

    A Heineken representative told CNBC on Friday: "We believe in equality for all. We are no longer a sponsor of Monday's parade."

    In February, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio announced that he would not be marching in this year's parade in support of the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community. Boston Mayor Martin Walsh has vowed not to attend the parade unless LGBT groups are allowed to march openly.....snip~

    Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's parades that ban openly gay marchers

    Seems all it took.....was a Facebook Page of Bars saying they would no longer Serve Sam Adams beer if they didn't pull their support for this St Patty's Day Parade. What are your thoughts upon the matter? Right thing to do or not?
    Sam Adams and Heineken suck. They should pull out of the beer making business. That assessment has nothing to do with their current actions here. It's just that they have always sucked and should stop making "beer".
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    Re: Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    You do realize there is a difference between illegal and wrong, don't you? It used to be legal to own slaves but it was also wrong. Do you need a longer list or are you catching on?
    Are you catching on.. to the fact it's a privately ran parade which is paid for by an organization who can choose who marches and how they march?
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    Re: Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    1: Honestly, don't care what the Supreme Court says on the matter. The question posed was if I thought it was right or not. So their decisions are irrelevent.

    2: The case you quoted was about the state trying to make private organizations that organize a public demonstration to impart a message that the organizers do not want.

    Addressing the specific issues of the case, the Court found that private citizens organizing a public demonstration may not be compelled by the state to include groups who impart a message the organizers do not want to be presented by their demonstration, even if the intent of the state was to prevent discrimination.
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    Re: Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Where did I say that? All I said was they aren't doing it for noble reasons but one of saving their bottom line. Heineken isn't even a major player in the US market.
    That would be the free market economics part. They're doing it to follow their financial interests.
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    Re: Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    What difference does it make? Most of the time, when we're acting, for one reason or another we're acting in our own self-interest.
    Of course.. which is why I said from the start this wasn't "heroic".

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Further, how do you claim to know the workings of others' minds? Judge the end result. Trying to ascribe motives is often like pissing in the wind.
    When Heineken just posted a 53% net profit decrease from last year, trying to earn brownie points is the only motive. Sam Adams motive is more clear then anything else. They rely on local bars/pubs selling their product as their beer is a acquired taste.
    Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office. H.L Mencken

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