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    Re: Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    You keep saying this but it isn't true. It's a public event. A non-profit is the organizer, I would bet. Not the church and not a private group, it is a public event with a public organizer, even though it may not be a government organizer, per se.
    It's open to the public to see. Every group that runs a St. Paddy's Day parade is a private group. To be a member of AoH requires to be Irish or of Irish ancestry and they collect dues. No different then an Eagles Club, Moose club or Elks club.

    They pay for the services of the Government. Basically they are renting Government services. When Government services are rented they are defined as a private event. Like a motorcade for a funeral.

    Here is another example of St. Paddy's parade being paid for privately, all of it.
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    Re: Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    You really think that $4000 pays for 20 cops and the street closures? Really? Not even close. It's nice that they paid a nominal fee, but that parade still happened on the public's dime.
    It does for 2 hours.
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    Re: Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

    Shame on both. This country is living in mortal fear of speaking it's mind. Threats of boycotts by corporations is Stalinist bull****. Say one wrong thing on the air and corporations fearing boycotts by XYZ group turn around and threaten boycotts of the person or program or network. Freedom of thought itself is in peril. This is no less than punishment for opinions.
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    Re: Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Why? Because you want it? How about you change the Church? Or just wait for one more Pope.. if Saint Malachy is correct.. Rome will be burning.




    Nope. It's not the right place to be "heard". It's not a political march now is it.. There are plenty of other marches for them to be heard. Hell, they have a whole month to be heard too. It's called June.





    I have, patience must not be a virtue of yours.


    Heya AC.....you know how the LGBT community activists is going to get around this, Right. Since they can't handle basic English.

    They will push for an all Gay school so they can get their signage in.....while proving they can have one of the Best damn high school marching bands in the country.

    Then they can say its a win win.....they got their way and Bested the majority of other kids in the country in their Marches.

    Watch.....they will do it like the college bands and March in a way to spell out their political message in a non Political event. Just to show all how they have to be Openly known as Special.

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    Re: Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I don't have to change the Church. I left the Church for a variety of reasons. If you remain a member of the Church, or really any organization, you either accept its tenets or you work to change them. If you aren't working to change them, you have accepted them.
    Good for you. Or it also means I don't play church politics.

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    It's a march down a public street. So long as order is maintained, nobody should be allowed to decide what it is except for those who are participating.
    So let me know what happens when you storm a motorcade for a funeral.
    Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office. H.L Mencken

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    Re: Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    Shame on both. This country is living in mortal fear of speaking it's mind. Threats of boycotts by corporations is Stalinist bull****. Say one wrong thing on the air and corporations fearing boycotts by XYZ group turn around and threaten boycotts of the person or program or network. Freedom of thought itself is in peril. This is no less than punishment for opinions.
    give people access to mass media and this is on of the consequnces. the entire world now has a voice
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    Re: Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Hell I haven't been to sleep yet. I have a horrible case of insomnia and no mmj to assist with sleep the past few days. I think I'm on about hour 64.
    NyQuil works wonders for me personally.

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    Re: Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    It does for 2 hours.
    Like I said, no, and your second "example" doesn't name an amount -- and neither of these examples answer the question of who is paying what for the parades in New York City and Boston.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    So let me know what happens when you storm a motorcade for a funeral.
    It's like you don't read what I write. So long as order is maintained. That would tend to imply that nobody is storming anything. That said, if I feel like sliding into the middle of a motorcade behind the wheel of a car shaped like a giant pink dick, **** your motorcade. It's my street too.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Beer makers drop out of St. Patrick's Parades that Ban Openly Gay Marchers.....

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    It's open to the public to see. Every group that runs a St. Paddy's Day parade is a private group. To be a member of AoH requires to be Irish or of Irish ancestry and they collect dues. No different then an Eagles Club, Moose club or Elks club.

    They pay for the services of the Government. Basically they are renting Government services. When Government services are rented they are defined as a private event. Like a motorcade for a funeral.

    Here is another example of St. Paddy's parade being paid for privately, all of it.
    Heya AC.....the event in Boston was sponsor by the South Boston Allied War Veterans Council.

    Sam Adams beer manufacturer pulls out of South Boston St. Patrick’s Day parade

    We were hopeful that both sides of this issue would be able to come to an agreement that would allow everyone, regardless of orientation, to participate in the parade,” The Boston Beer Company said in a statement. “But given the current status of the negotiations, we realize this may not be possible. We share these sentiments with Mayor Walsh, Congressman Lynch and others and therefore we will not participate in this year’s parade.”

    This week, Boston Mayor Marty Walsh attempted to negotiate a compromise with parade organizers, which would allow a gay veterans group to march in the parade. The parade, which takes place on March 16, is organized by the South Boston Allied War Veterans Council.....snip~


    This week, Boston Mayor Marty Walsh attempted to negotiate a compromise with parade organizers, which would allow a gay veterans group to march in the parade. The parade, which takes place on March 16, is organized by the South Boston Allied War Veterans Council.

    Negotiations between Walsh and the veterans council reportedly broke down on Thursday. For its part, the council claims LGBT Veterans for Equality planned to march with only one actual veteran.

    But even before the permit was rescinded, the group was saying the LGBT group could participate only as long as it did not include the word “gay” in any of its materials or clothing.....snip~

    Sam Adams beer manufacturer pulls out of South Boston St. Patrick

    As you can see from Sam Adams own words. The LGBT community activists are the ones that refused to negotiate.

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