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    Re: If Crimea says 'Da!,' what's next?

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Allegations with no proof.
    It's been established and proved multiple times in multiple threads. Must a person add links to every post. If we mention that the CIA toppled the democratic Iranian government in 1953, or that we landed on the moon in 1969, must we provide a link, each time?
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    Re: If Crimea says 'Da!,' what's next?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It's been established and proved multiple times in multiple threads. Must a person add links to every post. If we mention that the CIA toppled the democratic Iranian government in 1953, or that we landed on the moon in 1969, must we provide a link, each time?
    Check the conspiracy theory threads...you may be surprised to find out that we did not in fact land on the moon.

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    Re: If Crimea says 'Da!,' what's next?

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    What mercenaries?
    Oh dear lord. Did you miss the part when Hillary Clinton said to listen to Al Jazeera, if you want "real news"
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    Re: If Crimea says 'Da!,' what's next?

    Also, if you use to speak Russian or still do speak Russian, can you expect to be invaded in the next few months if this works out for Russia?
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    Re: If Crimea says 'Da!,' what's next?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Check the conspiracy theory threads...you may be surprised to find out that we did not in fact land on the moon.

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    That's what you think. Anyway, that didn't speak to the point.
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    Re: If Crimea says 'Da!,' what's next?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    That's the problem. He's put himself in a lose-lose situation in terms of long term outcome no matter the status of Crimea he may feel compelled to double down and cause more damage.

    That's happened a lot to me when I lose a few hands of poker.
    Technically speaking, for him to "win" the domestic PR fight, all he has to do is stay in Crimea till the referendum and then act according to the wishes of the people in Crimea counterbalanced with what the Russians in Russia want.

    If he does move into eastern ukraine however... then yes, he'll lose everything. He'll lose the trade agreements with the EU and the USA and that's over 10% of the Russian economy. There is no way he can get that money from elsewhere, not even trading with China. Losing that = recession or even a depression = mass unemployment = mass protests = bye bye 2nd term... his only chance is to have 140% of the population come out to vote again... but he'll have to become RasPutin to do that.

    Stay in Crimea... then leave Ukraine alone and then make amends to the keyholders of his economic wellbeing. But again, I can only speak from the perspective of a reasonable person. I don't think putin thinks like you and I would in terms of what's reasonable. Or maybe he does. Idk.

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    Re: If Crimea says 'Da!,' what's next?

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    It will have to be ensured that Russia does not send troops into eastern Ukraine.
    The Ukrainian Pendulum » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names

    "The stakes are high in the Ukraine: after the coup, as Crimea and Donbas asserted their right to self determination, American and Russian troops entered Ukrainian territory, both under cover.

    The American soldiers are “military advisors”, ostensibly members of Blackwater private army (renamed Academi); a few hundred of them patrol Kiev while others try to suppress the revolt in Donetsk. Officially, they were invited by the new West-installed regime. They are the spearhead of the US invasion attempting to prop up the regime and break down all resistance. They have already bloodied their hands in Donetsk."

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    Re: If Crimea says 'Da!,' what's next?

    I dont get the thread title what do you mean IF the Crimea says DA. The conclusion has already been decided by Putin. The vote is merely a prestaged bit of theatre.
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    Re: If Crimea says 'Da!,' what's next?

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    What mercenaries?
    "The stakes are high in the Ukraine: after the coup, as Crimea and Donbas asserted their right to self determination, American and Russian troops entered Ukrainian territory, both under cover.

    The American soldiers are “military advisors”, ostensibly members of Blackwater private army (renamed Academi); a few hundred of them patrol Kiev while others try to suppress the revolt in Donetsk. Officially, they were invited by the new West-installed regime. They are the spearhead of the US invasion attempting to prop up the regime and break down all resistance. They have already bloodied their hands in Donetsk.
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    Re: If Crimea says 'Da!,' what's next?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    I dont get the thread title what do you mean IF the Crimea says DA. The conclusion has already been decided by Putin. The vote is merely a prestaged bit of theatre.
    The conclusion was decided by the US long ago. Putin is responding. He's not the instigator or aggressor in this. Do you think US foreign policy is run by Jesus Christ.
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