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    Re: Investigators reportedly eye 'sabotage' in Malaysian jet disappearance

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    ...but can either of these be shut down from the ground?
    Yes, they can. How to shut down systems from the ground.

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    Re: Investigators reportedly eye 'sabotage' in Malaysian jet disappearance

    Quote Originally Posted by PW4000 View Post
    Biggest mysteries of the 21st Century? That's got to be the biggest overstatement of the 21st Century.

    - There was no wreckage commensurate with Boeing Commercial Heavy having gone down in Shanksville, PA.
    - There was no wreckage commensurate with a Boeing Commercial Heavy having gone down in Arlington, VA.
    - There was no wreckage commensurate with any Boeing Commercial Heavy having gone down in New York, that was ever identified by any OEM.

    Contrast that with ValueJet and TWA. In both cases, the NTSB, FAA and OEMs were standing side-by-side nearly every single day for weeks giving press conferences and identifying specific and particular components of each airframe as they discovered them. You could not escape your television at night without sitting through a long winded discovery session involving Flight 800 and Flight 592. Yet, we had not one (1) but four (4) commercial heavies go down on American soil and not one single OEM stood with anyone from the NTSB or the FAA to tell the American People that they had recovered and identified some portion of an aircraft that it identified as being a manufactured component coming form its company. Not one.

    If that does not qualify as the biggest mystery of the 21st Century, then Flight 370 never had a chance to rank so high on the stench meeter.
    The crash sites weren't discovered? Links?

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    Re: Investigators reportedly eye 'sabotage' in Malaysian jet disappearance

    Quote Originally Posted by PW4000 View Post
    Biggest mysteries of the 21st Century? That's got to be the biggest overstatement of the 21st Century.

    - There was no wreckage commensurate with Boeing Commercial Heavy having gone down in Shanksville, PA.
    - There was no wreckage commensurate with a Boeing Commercial Heavy having gone down in Arlington, VA.
    - There was no wreckage commensurate with any Boeing Commercial Heavy having gone down in New York, that was ever identified by any OEM.

    Contrast that with ValueJet and TWA. In both cases, the NTSB, FAA and OEMs were standing side-by-side nearly every single day for weeks giving press conferences and identifying specific and particular components of each airframe as they discovered them. You could not escape your television at night without sitting through a long winded discovery session involving Flight 800 and Flight 592. Yet, we had not one (1) but four (4) commercial heavies go down on American soil and not one single OEM stood with anyone from the NTSB or the FAA to tell the American People that they had recovered and identified some portion of an aircraft that it identified as being a manufactured component coming form its company. Not one.

    If that does not qualify as the biggest mystery of the 21st Century, then Flight 370 never had a chance to rank so high on the stench meeter.


    Someone listened to Coast-to-Coast AM, with George Noory, last night. That's exactly what some nutbag guest was saying.

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    Re: Investigators reportedly eye 'sabotage' in Malaysian jet disappearance

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    The crash sites weren't discovered? Links?
    Just ignore this person.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Investigators reportedly eye 'sabotage' in Malaysian jet disappearance

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    It's becoming fairly obvious that this plane was an attempted hijacking.
    Not when you know how such aircraft work and what certain governments are capable of staging.


    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The question is if it was a successful hijacking. Just where would one land a 777 without a trace?
    CNN should be sued for misleading people. You have to observe the facts and not what the media is telling you. Aircraft climbing to its assigned cruise altitude one minute, then has its transponder "turned off" the next minute. That makes no sense.

    This is a pic I have taken from the Boeing 777 Flight Crew Ops Manual. Please show me where you see an "Off" designation for the transponder. This Boeing 777 uses the TPR-901 Mode S Transponder. It is a integrated with the aircraft's TCAS.





    CNN should be flat out sued because they took you into a "simulator" this morning and convinced you that the TPR-901 Mode-S Transponder on-board the Boeing 777 can be simply "turned off." What they did not tell you is that "off" relates to the Altitude Reporting capability of the TPR-901 Mode-S Transponder and not the transponder itself. The don't tell you that this aircraft does not have a traditional Mode-C transponder with a full transponder "Off" mode. Mode-S transponders have TEST, STBY, ALT ON, and ALT OFF modes which are switch selectable.


    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    After turning off the last transponder device, they could have turned that plane any direction, but you can't exactly land a plane that size in a rice field.
    No. They could have turned Alt-Off. This is a Mode-S transponder. Doing so, would have dropped the transponder from Mode-S into Mode-C/Mode-A/Mode-B responsiveness upon ground based interrogation. The TCAS would have suffered as it needs altitude information to correctly calculate potential incursions.


    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    So if such a conspiracy occurred, what cooperating organization or nation was involved?
    Now, you are thinking like a truly informed human being with that question. All such events, unless mechanically derived, are by definition conspiracies to commit a criminal act. Governments commit criminal acts all the time. So, the real question is: which special operations organization or special activities division is behind this one.
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    Re: Investigators reportedly eye 'sabotage' in Malaysian jet disappearance

    Quote Originally Posted by PW4000 View Post
    Not when you know how such aircraft work and what certain governments are capable of staging.




    CNN should be sued for misleading people. You have to observe the facts and not what the media is telling you. Aircraft climbing to its assigned cruise altitude one minute, then has its transponder "turned off" the next minute. That makes no sense.
    Holy **** you claim to be a pilot and don't know what the STBY position on the transponder means?

    And have you ever, by chance, taken a close look at the circuit breaker panel? What do you suppose happens when you pull the one corresponding to a transponder?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Investigators reportedly eye 'sabotage' in Malaysian jet disappearance

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    The crash sites weren't discovered? Links?
    You want a link to that which is obvious? How does anyone post a link to that which never existed? How about the testimony of First Responders (links to which I have posted here years ago) to Shanksville? Namely, how about the testimony to a reporter of the Mayor of Shanksville? Was he crazy, too - just like me? Was the Major a nut case or a conspiracy theorist, or both?

    He was standing mere feet from where he was told a commercial heavy went down and here is what he had to say:



    Let me repeat what he said for you: "There was no airplane." How much clearer can it be made for those who do not believe in the truth?

    BTW - as a side note, the German reporter who broke this story got summarily FIRED from his job shortly thereafter. Why? Why would a German News Organization fire a reporter for doing his damn job?

    These are not "stories." This is the stark reality of rogue government involvement.

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    Re: Investigators reportedly eye 'sabotage' in Malaysian jet disappearance

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Just ignore this person.
    Exactly. Keep tuning into MSM not telling you the difference between TCAS Mode-S and standard Mode-C. Keep sticking your head in the sand and pretending to be informed. Keep walking the earth with blinders on and no ability to reconcile truth from fiction. Keep right on believing in fairytale stories of incompetent people being sophisticated enough to do the near impossible and mathematically insane.

    Yep, just ignore it all.

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    Re: Investigators reportedly eye 'sabotage' in Malaysian jet disappearance

    Quote Originally Posted by PW4000 View Post
    Exactly. Keep tuning into MSM not telling you the difference between TCAS Mode-S and standard Mode-C. Keep sticking your head in the sand and pretending to be informed. Keep walking the earth with blinders on and no ability to reconcile truth from fiction. Keep right on believing in fairytale stories of incompetent people being sophisticated enough to do the near impossible and mathematically insane.

    Yep, just ignore it all.
    It's better than believing the guy who thinks a transponder can't be turned off.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Investigators reportedly eye 'sabotage' in Malaysian jet disappearance

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Holy **** you claim to be a pilot and don't know what the STBY position on the transponder means?

    And have you ever, by chance, taken a close look at the circuit breaker panel? What do you suppose happens when you pull the one corresponding to a transponder?
    Stop pretending and start educating yourself. My post TELLS you the difference between the two and it tells you the relevant differential between a standard non-TACAS Mode-C and a TCAS Mode-S transponder. If you have questions, just ask - but don't sit here and kid yourself about my qualifications as one having a logbook filled with entries involving high-performance turbine aircraft.

    Second, who said anything about pulling a circuit breaker? Where did you learn that information? Did you visit the CNN website who dropped that little bit into their on-line story, but FAILED to tell you this during their on-air "demonstration" in the "simulator?"

    Lastly, one would need to know a LOT more about the aircraft systems to pull the correct fuse, which also goes to the lack of credibility that some incompetent skyjacker pulled off yet another downing of a commercial airliner. You are talking about having in-depth knowledge about the electrical system of one of the most sophisticated commercial airframes in the world. Pulling the WRONG fuse could do more harm to your "mission" than good.

    How about you go learn something called SATCOM ACARS Avionics Systems. That's the most likely path that leads to an understanding of what happened here, if this matter is not pegged to an isolated physical malfunction (which is mathematically feasible).

    Stop pretending. I can give Flight Instruction in the Boeing 757 and the Boeing 737, among many other types of aircraft.

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