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    Quote Originally Posted by sneakosview View Post
    The cases you quoted are so "vanilla" that they don't meet the true definition of defending.
    The aclu has a very dubious track record towards Christianity and it's symbols. They almost always fight to remove Christianity from public places and where they have defended it it's more of a speech issue rather than a religious on, nice try though.
    Yup, keep moving those goalposts so you can hold to the narrative that the ACLU is the natural enemy of the faithful. The ACLU is well acquainted with this false perception, so it's compiled a...warning!...rather lengthy list of cases in which it's defended faiths of all kinds.

    https://www.aclu.org/aclu-defense-re...and-expression

    There may be over fifty items on that last, maybe more. Admittedly I stopped counting at thirty.

    The ACLU of New Jersey (2014) defended an orthodox Christian man’s right to wear his religious head-covering in a municipal courtroom.
    ACLU appeal filed over man's hat in Egg Harbor City court - pressofAtlanticCity.com: Atlantic County News

    The ACLU and the ACLU of Wyoming (2014) sent a letter protesting the Wyoming Department of Corrections’ practice of prohibiting prisoners from wearing religious headgear outside of their cells.
    https://www.aclu.org/blog/prisoners-...wish-prisoners

    The ACLU of Alabama (2013) represented a prisoner seeking to wear his hair unshorn in accordance with his Native American faith.
    http://www.aclualabama.org/WhatWeDo/...20page%202.pdf

    The ACLU of Pennsylvania (2013) interceded on behalf of a Christian inmate seeking to have a communal pre-meal prayer during the Christmas holiday.
    The ACLU and the ACLU of Oklahoma (2013) filed a brief in support of a Muslim job applicant who faced religious discrimination in the hiring process.
    /religion-belief/eeoc-v-abercrombie-fitch-amicus-brief

    The ACLU of Washington (2013) supported the right of Orthodox Christian, Hindu, and Muslim employees to an accommodation for their religious dietary needs.
    https://aclu-wa.org/cases/kumar-v-gate-gourmet-0

    The ACLU and the ACLU of Mississippi (2013) defended the right of a Sikh man to wear a turban and carry a kirpan, without being subjected to harassment, in encounters with the Mississippi Department of Transportation and a Pike County judge/ during a traffic stop and courtroom appearance.
    /blog/religion-belief-racial-justice/judge-sikh-man-remove-rag-or-go-jail

    The ACLU and the New York Civil Liberties Union (2013) filed a lawsuit challenging the New York City Police Department's practice of targeting entire Muslim communities for discriminatory and suspicionless surveillance.
    /national-security/raza-v-city-new-york-legal-challenge-nypd-muslim-surveillance-program

    The ACLU of North Carolina (2012) advocated for allowing a 6-year-old to read aloud a poem with the word "God" in it at her school's Veterans Day assembly, in response to school officials' decision to remove the word.
    http://www.charlotteobserver.com/201...ne-on-god.html

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    all the appeals etc ... are useless this is going to the SCOTUS and they are going to see the 1500 different appeals etc they will issue a grand ruling one way or the other.
    that will handle all cases at one time.

    what is sad is the day when a boy can't go to the boys room and see a girl there. or women can't go into the women's bathroom and see a guy in it.
    more so in high school and middle school.

    what is worse if they protest then the lefties come out in swarms with their ad hominems.

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    re: Gay couples, ACLU seek Fla. marriage recognition[W:134]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    That's true. We are comparing common sense things like equality under the law to immoral religious nonsense. But the first amendment even protects immoral religious nonsense. That's why no one is assaulting your churches (and of course you don't care about mosques or synagogues) and why you will never face legal discrimination for your religious beliefs. The people you are trying to trample are already displaying a higher moral fiber than you and yours.
    Ah, the glory of socialism! What a magical economic philosophy. The support of the Godless and their immoral dreams what would we do without them. They are so out there they will embrace sexual deviates to gain what they think would pose for acceptance. Let's face it everybody wants the same no matter how useless they might be.

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    For example, in 2001, the group interceded with a school district in Michigan that had deleted a high school senior's yearbook entry because she included a Bible verse. In 2002, the ACLU filed a brief on behalf of a pastor associated with Operation Rescue who was prevented from participating in a parade because his pro-life poster showed a photograph of an aborted baby. And last September, the organization joined a lawsuit on behalf of a New Jersey second-grader who was not allowed to sing "Awesome God" in a school talent show. (All of these examples are easily accessible on several Web pages now devoted to defending the ACLU 's record on Christianity.)
    The ACLU Is Not Evil | Christianity Today

    That was from a Christian.

    The ACLU is very clear on addressing all actions that infringe on civil liberties. It's just what they do.

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    re: Gay couples, ACLU seek Fla. marriage recognition[W:134]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Yup, keep moving those goalposts so you can hold to the narrative that the ACLU is the natural enemy of the faithful. The ACLU is well acquainted with this false perception, so it's compiled a...warning!...rather lengthy list of cases in which it's defended faiths of all kinds.

    https://www.aclu.org/aclu-defense-re...and-expression

    There may be over fifty items on that last, maybe more. Admittedly I stopped counting at thirty.

    The ACLU of New Jersey (2014) defended an orthodox Christian man’s right to wear his religious head-covering in a municipal courtroom.
    ACLU appeal filed over man's hat in Egg Harbor City court - pressofAtlanticCity.com: Atlantic County News

    The ACLU and the ACLU of Wyoming (2014) sent a letter protesting the Wyoming Department of Corrections’ practice of prohibiting prisoners from wearing religious headgear outside of their cells.
    https://www.aclu.org/blog/prisoners-...wish-prisoners

    The ACLU of Alabama (2013) represented a prisoner seeking to wear his hair unshorn in accordance with his Native American faith.
    http://www.aclualabama.org/WhatWeDo/...20page%202.pdf

    The ACLU of Pennsylvania (2013) interceded on behalf of a Christian inmate seeking to have a communal pre-meal prayer during the Christmas holiday.
    The ACLU and the ACLU of Oklahoma (2013) filed a brief in support of a Muslim job applicant who faced religious discrimination in the hiring process.
    /religion-belief/eeoc-v-abercrombie-fitch-amicus-brief

    The ACLU of Washington (2013) supported the right of Orthodox Christian, Hindu, and Muslim employees to an accommodation for their religious dietary needs.
    https://aclu-wa.org/cases/kumar-v-gate-gourmet-0

    The ACLU and the ACLU of Mississippi (2013) defended the right of a Sikh man to wear a turban and carry a kirpan, without being subjected to harassment, in encounters with the Mississippi Department of Transportation and a Pike County judge/ during a traffic stop and courtroom appearance.
    /blog/religion-belief-racial-justice/judge-sikh-man-remove-rag-or-go-jail

    The ACLU and the New York Civil Liberties Union (2013) filed a lawsuit challenging the New York City Police Department's practice of targeting entire Muslim communities for discriminatory and suspicionless surveillance.
    /national-security/raza-v-city-new-york-legal-challenge-nypd-muslim-surveillance-program

    The ACLU of North Carolina (2012) advocated for allowing a 6-year-old to read aloud a poem with the word "God" in it at her school's Veterans Day assembly, in response to school officials' decision to remove the word.
    http://www.charlotteobserver.com/201...ne-on-god.html
    Look the aclu are a group of socialist bullies. If they defended Christianity, even by accident, it was because they couldn't find an angle that served they're pathetic existence.

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    re: Gay couples, ACLU seek Fla. marriage recognition[W:134]

    Quote Originally Posted by sneakosview View Post
    My argument with homosexuals is forcing the marriage issue. I was always in support of the same rights but they didn't have to foul marriage in the process.
    What screws up marriage more: Two gay men or women who love each other seeking to be married? Or a Heteroxsexual man who has sex with another married mans wife?
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    re: Gay couples, ACLU seek Fla. marriage recognition[W:134]

    Quote Originally Posted by sneakosview View Post
    That's your opinion there are many of us who still consider homosexuality as a form of perversion. That opinion would easily help someone to reach the opinion that marriage has been fouled. I can never accept homosexuals because of this and what will be coming next. The legal assault on our churches.
    The Bible didnt say it was a perversion...it said it was a sin....no better and no worse than fornicating and adultery. Why arent you freaking out over those sinners marrying and fouling marriage?

    Your 'sky is falling' assumption that even more 'fouling' of marriage will occur is silly and unfounded....It's just like...using the exact same words....as those objecting to interracial marriage...they considered that 'fouling' too. And those people and their ignorance and hate (yes, because they do not care about the humans they would deny happiness) DISGUST me.

    And there will not be assaults on churches (not successful anyway). The govt legally does not have that power. And gays can already find plenty of churches of many denominations to marry them.
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    re: Gay couples, ACLU seek Fla. marriage recognition[W:134]

    Quote Originally Posted by sneakosview View Post
    I know you have all the answers so keep doing what you do. I knew an individual who exercised their rights once and the word got out not a company would hire them because of the potential mess they might cause.
    cool story it has zero impact here
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    re: Gay couples, ACLU seek Fla. marriage recognition[W:134]

    Quote Originally Posted by sneakosview View Post
    You're comparing common sense to immoral.
    morals are meaningless to this topic, we are discussing rights
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    re: Gay couples, ACLU seek Fla. marriage recognition[W:134]

    Quote Originally Posted by sneakosview View Post
    Look the aclu are a group of socialist bullies. If they defended Christianity, even by accident, it was because they couldn't find an angle that served they're pathetic existence.
    Riggghhht. They defend Christians to trick them!

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