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New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room[W:829]

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opendebate said:
Way to keep your eye on the ball dude.
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Indeed. So, what else do you want to mention about men that are all dead now?
 
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Henrin said:
Indeed. So, what was that about **** about men that are all dead now?
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you don't find context relevant?
 
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opendebate said:
you don't find context relevant?
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You mean talking about things not going on anymore? Nope.
 
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Henrin said:
You mean talking about things not going on anymore? Nope.
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we don't exist in a vacuum
 
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opendebate said:
we don't exist in a vacuum
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Thanks. I was unaware. I was also unaware I was living with dead people. You're really helpful.
 
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Henrin said:
Thanks. I was unaware. I was however unaware I was living with dead people though.
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Yet you would be the first to evoke the voices of our founding fathers when addressing current policy issues
 
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year2late said:
Tell me, does this give you PTSD?

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Doesn't bother me. I treat women the way they deserve to be treated.

If I was this guy, I'd sign over rights immediately. She's a selfish bitch, and I wouldn't want to be tied to her for 18 years.
 
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opendebate said:
Yet you would be the first to evoke the voices of our founding fathers when addressing current policy issues
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That's an interesting comment. Tell me, when I'm talking about a document they wrote that is still the law of the land today how is that similar to your comment? Not that I actually evoke the founding fathers anyway, but I'm still interesting in your answer.

Every time women like you get caught in a corner you pull out that "we have been mistreated for centuries" card. Sorry, if I consider it ****.
 
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Henrin said:
That's an interesting comment. Tell me, when I'm talking about a document they wrote that is still the law of the land today how is that similar to your comment? Not that I actually evoke the founding fathers anyway, but I'm still interesting in your answer.

Every time women like you get caught in a corner you pull out that "we have been mistreated for centuries" card. Sorry, if I consider it ****.
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Interesting....what exactly does "women like you" mean? Am I too uppity for your liking? Am I being "difficult"? Am I overstepping my boundaries? Am I betraying my genders "natural" inclinations? Am I ****ing with your comfort zone?
 
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opendebate said:
Interesting....what exactly does "women like you" mean? Am I too uppity for your liking?
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No babe, it's the whole men are pushing back, so they are clearly bad men crap you're pulling. Maybe you pushed too far? Ever consider that?
 
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opendebate said:
Interesting....what exactly does "women like you" mean? Am I too uppity for your liking? Am I being "difficult"? Am I overstepping my boundaries? Am I betraying my genders "natural" inclinations? Am I ****ing with your comfort zone?
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You can't make me back down with that drivel. That might work on weaker men, but good luck with that approach with me.
 
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Henrin said:
No babe, it's the whole men are pushing back, so they are clearly bad men crap you're pulling. Maybe you pushed too far? Ever consider that?
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Is the "babe" thing suppose to be insulting in some way?
Trying to ruffle my feathers by using something YOU consider condescending?
All this does is display your need for things to stay the way they are so you don't get booted out of position.
You are pushing back against people insisting that they be treated with the same level of respect and allowed the same level of personal dignity that white men in this country have been given for generations.
If you don't like your privilege being challenged you are just **** out of luck because equality is eminent.
You might want to adapt.
 
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Henrin said:
You can't make me back down with that drivel. That might work on weaker men, but good luck with that approach with me.
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We probably don't define a "weak" man in the same way.
 
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opendebate said:
Is the "babe" thing suppose to be insulting in some way?
Trying to ruffle my feathers by using something YOU consider condescending?
All this does is display your need for things to stay the way they are so you don't get booted out of position.
You are pushing back against people insisting that they be treated with the same level of respect and allowed the same level of personal dignity that white men in this country have been given for generations.
If you don't like your privilege being challenged you are just **** out of luck because equality is eminent.
You might want to adapt.
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So when my problem is the current state of affairs I want things to stay the same? Great logic.
 
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opendebate said:
We probably don't define a "weak" man in the same way.
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Yes, you define a desirable man as a lap dog. You should probably just buy yourself a dog really.
 
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Henrin said:
You can't make me back down with that drivel. That might work on weaker men, but good luck with that approach with me.
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:2rofll::2rofll::2rofll: So you think you're a strong man. :2rofll::2rofll:
 
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Summerwind said:
:2rofll::2rofll::2rofll: So you think you're a strong man. :2rofll::2rofll:
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Thanks for the perdictable response, Summerwind. I will log that next to your "oh no flowers" rant.
 
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Henrin said:
Thanks for the perdictable response, Summerwind. I will log that next to your "oh no flowers" rant.
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Not a problem I accept who I am fully. As a potential date, I can be very selective. This makes me neither weak nor strong, nor have I claimed such either way that I can recall. I also don't bully others or need to have others give me "rights" that aren't legitimately mine.
 
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Henrin said:
Seriously? When a new person is created the man gains parental rights. There is no "donation" taking place.
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At birth, after having been verified or agreed upon that he is the father. Then and only then does he get some parental rights. How much parental rights is purely dependent on his personal position/character.
 
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Summerwind said:
Not a problem I accept who I am fully. As a potential date, I can be very selective. This makes me neither weak nor strong, nor have I claimed such either way that I can recall. I also don't bully others or need to have others give me "rights" that aren't legitimately mine.
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Are you saying I bully others? Well, that is news to me. Who do I bully? The lady crying about flowers of all things? Oh the gods, the man has gotten me flowers! What should I ever do now?! Oh poor pitiful me.

Oh, the man is in delivery room! I feel so violated!
 
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Henrin said:
Are you saying I bully others? Well, that is news to me. Who do I bully? The lady crying about flowers of all things? Oh the gods, the man has gotten me flowers! What should I ever do now?! Oh poor pitiful me.

Oh, the man is in delivery room! I feel so violated!
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I wasn't crying, I was annoyed, and it wasn't because he bought me flowers, it was because he got aggressively offended because I didn't swoon over getting flowers.
 
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Summerwind said:
I wasn't crying, I was annoyed, and it wasn't because he bought me flowers, it was because he got aggressively offended because I didn't swoon over getting flowers.
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I'm just playing Summerwind. Sorry for being so mean. It took me a while but I think I know understand what your problem with it was. Anyway, see you around.
 
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Henrin said:
Are you saying I bully others? Well, that is news to me. Who do I bully? The lady crying about flowers of all things? Oh the gods, the man has gotten me flowers! What should I ever do now?! Oh poor pitiful me.

Oh, the man is in delivery room! I feel so violated!
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Oh, and by the way, not only was the father of my children in the delivery room both times, the second time my four year old daughter who had gone to all the appointments and check ups and had gone through the miscarriage scare with me was sitting right between my legs with the doctor when her brother was being born. So apparently I don't feel violated when I'm observed, but I don't expect everyone to be like me or to have my same values, that's supposed to be the glory of USA.
 
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Gipper said:
Doesn't bother me. I treat women the way they deserve to be treated.

If I was this guy, I'd sign over rights immediately. She's a selfish bitch, and I wouldn't want to be tied to her for 18 years.
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No, there is just one selfish moron in this whole drama and that his the selfish jerk of an ex-boyfriend. He thinks he has the "right" to interfere with the woman's actual right for privacy during her childbirth.

If he were demanding to be present during the gradation of his child then I would say more power to him, if he paid for the child and did his best to raise the child then he also has the right to see his child graduate. But childbirth against the mothers wishes? Then you are not exercising your parental right, then you are just a total waste of space on this planet. He could get the nobel award for being one of the greatest moronic bastards of this year. I am real happy the judge agreed with common sense and the law that this asshole does not have the right to impose his presence upon the only person who is of any interest in this birthing process (the mother) and if he tries to enter he should be arrested and locked up for breach of the peace and then sued by the mother for mental anguish for a huge amount of money (and I am not even a big fan of litigation but in this instance I would love to make an exception for such a rotten evil jerk).
 
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Henrin said:
No babe, it's the whole men are pushing back, so they are clearly bad men crap you're pulling. Maybe you pushed too far? Ever consider that?
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How condescending can one get if you call a woman you almost certainly do not know a "babe". If you have a problem with her name you can call her "miss or misses".

The whole men are pushing back is also not true because a lot of men will not agree with you on most of your views. And I am pretty sure you do not know the men she meets. She seems a perfectly nice lady to me who is not browbeating into submission by some arrogant macho loser.
 
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