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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Del Zeppnile View Post
    You're welcome.

    BTW, that last post was not an insult. The quote, "Are you still beating your wife?" is a commonly known example of a loaded question -- a logical fallacy; -- the facts are presupposed by the question. Forgive me if you were not aware of that; my apology if you thought I was offering that quote as an insult.

    Hopefully you will be able to use this information. It might even qualify as being something of "intellectual merit".
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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    IOW, you can't name a single one. that's what I thought....
    LOL why do you post lies, nobody honest, educated and objective buys them
    another post with nothing to over, no surprise. Let us know when you have something on topic and that matters
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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    The baby is a PART of the mother's body, as they are connected by the umbilical cord. The baby is a part of the mother until the umbilical cord is cut. Yes, it is the mother undergoing a procedure. HER name is used to schedule the procedure. It is not mother and baby, just mom's name and information. Baby is NOT yet a separate person from mom.
    Sure, the baby is not undergoing a procedure. Got it.
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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    I'm not going to play your silly game with you. Find someone else.
    What, I am asking for you to clarify which response you thought to be rational. No silly game. Sorry if a simple request for clarification offends you.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Sure, the baby is not undergoing a procedure. Got it.
    Look at hospital records. Mother is the patient until the baby is born....then there are two. And as soon as there were two, daddy met his child.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Sure, the baby is not undergoing a procedure. Got it.
    The baby is INSIDE of the mom's body and all of his/her nutrients and life come from mom. Do you get that too? If mom is upset or stressed out, so is baby. Her chemistry and stress affects baby's health, even during pregnancy.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    As far as I'm concerned, they're both patients. Just because the dad isn't going into labor per se, doesn't make him any less important to the situation.

    That's why parents-to-be that are so concerned about an upcoming child say things like "we're pregnant". You're just opening the door to men abandoning their responsibilities because they're not considered to be of value.

    Long story short, your attitude contributes to more "sperm donors". It makes me glad I never put a ring on a vitriolic bag of emotions, just because she had a nice rack.

    All that glitters is not gold, it seems.
    How on earth is he the patient? I was not aware he was going into labor?

    And yes, the father on the whole is totally useless except for being there for support and in this situation he is not even there for support so there is no logical reason for him to bother her during her labor.

    And people might be saying "we are pregnant" but they are not really though, she is the only one who has that baby in her belly, she is the one feeling the onslaught of hormones, it is her private parts that will be stretched when the child comes out. It might make a woman's life easier if she has a partner during her pregnancy but that doesn't even have to be a man. If she is lesbian a female partner will be just as effective because mostly that partner is there for support and not much else.

    In an ideal world it would be best if this woman could have counted on her partner to be there during the pregnancy and during labor, but again, they are estranged and his presence in the delivery room would put undue pressure and distraction on this woman when she should be totally concentrating on giving birth.
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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    LOL why do you post lies, nobody honest, educated and objective buys them
    another post with nothing to over, no surprise. Let us know when you have something on topic and that matters
    let us know if you ever plan on backing up a single claim you ever make. I won't hold my breath.....
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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    let us know if you ever plan on backing up a single claim you ever make. I won't hold my breath.....
    already done lol
    this is why you are left with nothing, you have ZERO argument against my posts

    this doesn't violate his legal rights in anyway
    men and women BOTH have the SAME right to privacy

    both facts both, backed up
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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Haven't bothered to read the entire thread but legally I side with the judge. I think it's the right decision. As an observation if the mom decides to bar the dad from the delivery room I'm betting they have some serious relationship problems which probably doesn't bode well for the kid.
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