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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    You can call it "baggage" if you want. I just refuse to let some skirt trample on me or my rights.

    I, like you, may not know all the details, but I know this - if she did this to me, she better be prepared for me to sign my rights over then and there. It'll also make her happy, because she'll be able to tell lies and smear the guy, making him look responsible.
    I could say something, but I'm going to refrain and just say that your own personal experiences with women do not apply to ALL women. You have no idea what kind of people either of these people are; she could have VERY GOOD reasons for wanting him out of the room, and even if she doesn't, if you cared at ALL about your unborn child, you want this transition to be as easy on your baby as possible and not try to make things MORE difficult and add to the drama.

    IMO, that is all part of being a MAN and taking responsibility. REgardless of HER behavior, YOU do what is best for the child.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    You can call it "baggage" if you want. I just refuse to let some skirt trample on me or my rights.

    I, like you, may not know all the details, but I know this - if she did this to me, she better be prepared for me to sign my rights over then and there. It'll also make her happy, because she'll be able to tell lies and smear the guy, making him look responsible.
    You should take tips from Gathomas. He might be much younger than you, but he seems to have a MUCH better understanding of women and an important situation such as this than you do.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That's why hospitals that offer birthing rooms are good. They are much less "sterile" looking and more comfortable. Keep in mind though that a LOT of women would much rather have their child in a hospital setting. I know that I would. If anything goes wrong, I want to have everything and everyone needed and available to get the BEST care possible.
    Of course. Frankly, many more modern hospitals have been trying to make things better in this regard anyway.

    A lot of them even offer water birthing facilities and mid wife care these days.

    I simply think that a lot of people in this thread are picturing the "classical" hospital environment when they talk about childbirth, and figuring to themselves that, since the environment is so horrible anyway, there's little a hostile father's presence could do to make that worse.

    They don't realize that childbirth doesn't necessarily have to be that way in the first place.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    REgardless of HER behavior, YOU do what is best for the child.
    I love the double standard.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I love the double standard.
    There is NO double standard. That is what a decent adult person does PERIOD. They would think about what is best for the health of the child, regardless of how the "other" one behaves.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Right, but I don't think the judge was looking at from a "moral" perspective, rather what is in the best medical interests of mother and child.
    To be certain.

    The legal aspect was a no brainer.

    The moral aspect depends on the father actually seeing beyond his ego and looking out for the best physical best interest of mother and child.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    To be certain.

    The legal aspect was a no brainer.

    The moral aspect depends on the father actually seeing beyond his ego and looking out for the best physical best interest of mother and child.
    Mmm, yeah, some people just don't seem to understand how stress can play a role in ANY medical procedure.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I love the double standard.
    What double standard? When he gets pregnant and goes into labor, he can exclude the other parent if he choses.

    Solved.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    What double standard? When he gets pregnant and goes into labor, he can exclude the other parent if he choses.

    Solved.
    Actually I prefer to see her banned from other significant events in the child's life. Maybe sneak to her house and slash all four tires an hour before the child walks for graduation.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Actually I prefer to see her banned from other significant events in the child's life. Maybe sneak to her house and slash all four tires an hour before the child walks for graduation.
    Gipper, your childish responses avoid the obvious.

    If they share custody, each will miss many important milestones in the childs life.

    FIrst steps

    First words.

    First **** in the toilet.

    They each will have to get over it.

    Hopefully, they will both take a deep breath and stay out of court.

    If the lawyer had his best interests in mind, he would have told his client to pick his battles - not this one.

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