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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    The child is alive at the point of birth. This means that this situation can no longer find parallel in the abortion argument.

    Imagine that the child is 3 years old and the mother and father rush the child to the ER with an injury because the mother has glued herself, with crazy glue, to the child. The mother now demands that the father not be present in the ER as the physicians separate them. Why does the mother have greater rights than the child who is crying out for the father's presence?
    The father would be removed regardless. Usually they only allow one parent in a room with an active procedure that involves removal of clothing, stitching, surgery, ......
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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    The theory is that this forms a tighter emotional bond with the child, not that it is necessary to form a bond.
    That's a nice theory but lacks in credible evidence since it is a rather recent phenomenon. Again, history suggests a tight emotional bond may be developed without the father's presense at birth. Considering all the child is seeing at that point are blobs I doubt the father's presense has any impact upon the child at birth at all, other than upsetting the mother.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    1.)The child is alive at the point of birth. This means that this situation can no longer find parallel in the abortion argument.
    2.)Imagine that the child is 3 years old and the mother and father rush the child to the ER with an injury because the mother has glued herself, with crazy glue, to the child. The mother now demands that the father not be present in the ER as the physicians separate them. Why does the mother have greater rights than the child who is crying out for the father's presence?
    1.) good thing i never mentioned abortion or whether the child is alive or not. You seemed severely confused
    2.) the mother doesn't have GREATER rights and nothing in your scenario gives her GREATER rights, once again you are confused about what rights are and what is going on
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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    What did I say exactly that is hating on women? lol. She doesn't own the room, and being in the room is not acting on her body. Both are facts. There is no reason that she would have a right to control the room and who is in it. Here is the thing, she is in a room owned by someone else with her pussy out for all to see. Anyone can come into that room and see it. The father saw the ****ing thing already, so really, wtf is your complaint about exactly? That he will see it again? It's kind of weird to **** a dude, decide to have his kid, and then complain he might see your pussy.



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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    There are two people involved in the medical procedure of birth - the mother and the child.
    I always wondered why the hell did doctors and nurses had to be there.

    If the mother doesn't grant permission, the child can
    Seriously?

    and in this case, the father has legal rights
    Such as evidenced by what?

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    The theory is that this forms a tighter emotional bond with the child, not that it is necessary to form a bond.
    Theory, so the rights of the father you alluded to was also a theory.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    That's a nice theory but lacks in credible evidence since it is a rather recent phenomenon. Again, history suggests a tight emotional bond may be developed without the father's presense at birth. Considering all the child is seeing at that point are blobs I doubt the father's presense has any impact upon the child at birth at all, other than upsetting the mother.
    I don't think that anyone has argued that the child has a closer bond to the father. The argument is the reverse and the child benefits from the father having a closer bond to the child than he otherwise would have.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    What did I say exactly that is hating on women? lol. She doesn't own the room, and being in the room is not acting on her body. Both are facts. There is no reason that she would have a right to control the room and who is in it. Here is thing, she is a room owned by someone else with her pussy out for all to see. Anyone can come into that room as see it. The father saw the ****ing thing alredy, so really, wtf is your complaint about exactly? That he will see it again?
    Any time any person is in the hospital, they have the right to refuse visitors to their room, refuse to have their name shown on the hospital directory, refuse that any health information at all be given out about them, refuse phone calls, etc., etc. Read up on HIPPA Laws.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    Seriously?
    Sure. My minor daughters can grant all sorts of permissions when I act as their agent, or IOW, I act on their behalf.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    It's kind of weird to **** a dude, decide to have his kid, and then complain he might see your pussy.
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