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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I never gave you permission to speak...
    Don't need it.

    But it does not surprise me that you think I need your permission.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Haha.

    Of course not.
    Can you show me the law that supports this assertion?

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Can you show me the law that supports this assertion?
    It's not about law. Very few judges would order female-based support.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    It's not about law. Very few judges would order female-based support.
    Only about 15% huh?

    There are actually a lot of deadbeat moms out there who don't pay child support, just as there are deadbeat dads. To believe that it never happens is ignorant.
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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Only about 15% huh?

    There are actually a lot of deadbeat moms out there who don't pay child support, just as there are deadbeat dads. To believe that it never happens is ignorant.
    I never said "never".

    I'm just not going to take Ebony magazine at face value, sorry.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I never said "never".

    I'm just not going to take Ebony magazine at face value, sorry.
    I'm willing to bet it is only because of your own preconceived beliefs about this. We know women are ordered to pay child support and that it is an increasing trend. Why would it be necessary for them to lie?
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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I'm willing to bet it is only because of your own preconceived beliefs about this. We know women are ordered to pay child support and that it is an increasing trend. Why would it be necessary for them to lie?
    For women to lie?

    Thanks for the laugh. I thoroughly enjoyed that.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    You mean like it's not necessary for your husband to have a monogamous sexual relationship with you in order to be a good husband? Does my opinion on your marriage mean anything?

    These things are not for you nor me to say, this man believes that he needs to be in that delivery room to be a good father.
    No, the man has an opinion on what he wants, and when he did not get it he threw a temper tantrum and acted like a little pathetic jerk IMHO by suing the mother of his child in this way.

    And as for opinions, you do know what Dirty Harry said about opinions:



    And his "opinions" about where he has a right to be means absolutely not a darned thing, the judge has punt the exclamation mark on that one. The privacy rights of the mother are way way way way way more important that the pathetic opinions of this selfish bully.
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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    It's not about law. Very few judges would order female-based support.
    Bull****. I did a 10 second google search and this was on top of the list.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Dude isn't a husband, a father, and certainly not a "dad". Those titles are earned, not inherent.

    Right now, he's a "hook-up", and nothing more.
    This. He's an ex-boyfriend, not her husband, and they obviously went through a pretty messy break up and don't even really like one another.

    The guy simply doesn't have much of a leg to stand on here. There's no reason whatsoever why he should have to be in the room for the delivery.

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I'd tell her to go **** herself and be a dick about every ****ing support payment. ****, I'd take the time to go to the bank and pay her ****ing ass in pennies every month.

    "hey, here's this month's child support. seventy-five thousand pennies." and make her sign a ****ing receipt for them
    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    If he has no rights, then he should bear no responsibility.....
    I agree with you on this. If a woman wants to raise a child completely without the father's input, she should really support the child herself as well.

    If she's not willing or able to do that, and if some extenuating circumstance is not present, she should be willing to compromise.

    However, I don't see that as necessarily translating into a "right" to be present in the delivery room. If the guy's clearly not wanted, it doesn't serve any real purpose other than to cause the mother (who is already undergoing a rather traumatic experience to begin with) additional distress.

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Idle curiosity, this natural process....do you have any concept of maternal complications that happened before the advent of modern medical care?
    Again, to be fair, the most common cause of maternal mortality in the pre-modern era and in the pre-industrialized world today was / is actually infection and sepsis, caused by unsanitary living conditions or medical practices (physicians not washing their hands or properly sterilizing needles before suturing, etca), not complications from the delivery itself.

    Death from the process of actually pushing the baby out has always been somewhat rare. It may take an ungodly long time in some cases, but women's bodies do tend to figure these things out on their own more often than not.

    Modern medicine just likes to speed things up by intervening.
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