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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Ah...so men who "do the right thing" get punished. Gotcha.

    And women wonder why we bail.
    The "right thing" is thinking about what is best for the child and even to a point the mother, not what you want. Being in the delivery room is not necessary to be a good father, especially if that makes the mother uncomfortable. Making the mother uncomfortable or upset during childbirth can harm the baby and greatly harm the relationship between the parents more if the mother is forced into that situation. Life can be complicated. And sometimes it takes patience and even some compromises to come to a place that is best for a child when their parents don't get along. Sometimes that place simply can't be reached for so many reasons. It is unfortunate, but life is not a scripted movie or TV show where things will always turn out "right" in the end.
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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    If he has no rights, then he should bear no responsibility.....
    Not being allowed in the delivery room equals no rights??

    Good grief.

    Another tantrum.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    The "right thing" is thinking about what is best for the child and even to a point the mother, not what you want. Being in the delivery room is not necessary to be a good father, especially if that makes the mother uncomfortable. Making the mother uncomfortable or upset during childbirth can harm the baby and greatly harm the relationship between the parents more if the mother is forced into that situation. Life can be complicated. And sometimes it takes patience and even some compromises to come to a place that is best for a child when their parents don't get along. Sometimes that place simply can't be reached for so many reasons. It is unfortunate, but life is not a scripted movie or TV show where things will always turn out "right" in the end.
    I actually hope this kind of thing happens more. It might make men wake the hell up.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    I wonder if this case would have had a different outcome if this pregnancy had been a contractual arrangement where the woman was a surrogate, artificially inseminated or implanted with a fertilized egg, on behalf of a paying party. If she had such a contract and the contract provided for the paying party to be in the delivery room, would she have legal grounds to bar them?
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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I wonder if this case would have had a different outcome if this pregnancy had been a contractual arrangement where the woman was a surrogate, artificially inseminated or implanted with a fertilized egg, on behalf of a paying party. If she had such a contract and the contract provided for the paying party to be in the delivery room, would she have legal grounds to bar them?
    As long as it was part of the contract to begin with, I doubt she could legally bar them (although some limitations could probably be made, particularly if it came to her health or the baby's). I think it would definitely have to be put in a contract though, not just assumed. I would say they would have a right to be notified of the birth though no matter what. The child is theirs afterall, even if viewing of the birth wasn't actually in the contract.
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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Being in the delivery room is not necessary to be a good father, especially if that makes the mother uncomfortable.
    You mean like it's not necessary for your husband to have a monogamous sexual relationship with you in order to be a good husband? Does my opinion on your marriage mean anything?

    These things are not for you nor me to say, this man believes that he needs to be in that delivery room to be a good father.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    It's just a demonstration as to why women will never be equal. The evidence is infinite.
    Believe me, no women would want to stoop down to your level.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    As long as it was part of the contract to begin with, I doubt she could legally bar them (although some limitations could probably be made, particularly if it came to her health or the baby's). I think it would definitely have to be put in a contract though, not just assumed. I would say they would have a right to be notified of the birth though no matter what. The child is theirs afterall, even if viewing of the birth wasn't actually in the contract.
    IMO, if the lady said no, the hospital would honor her wishes. They have no contract with the guy. They do have HIPPA obligations to the patient. By the time it got sorted in court which is what would have to happen if the lady continued to say no? It'd be a moot point.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    No you didn't. How irresponsible is that? Does responsibility mean nothing to you? Why couldn't you just deal with the consequences of your actions? All the progress we have achieved now will be in jeopardy because of your irresponsible action.
    No no no, you have to make my returning the tv an attack on capitalism. Or gun rights, whatever.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Believe me, no women would want to stoop down to your level.
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