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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    The simple fact (due to NATURE) is that the mother is the one who has to undergo a procedure or multiple procedures which are very traumatic to her. No one has the RIGHT to be there during that time except her doctors and others that SHE so chooses.

    Otherwise, I could just use the opposite argument and say that women should be able to FORCE men to be in the delivery room and actually participate in the birthing process. WTH?
    Now you're moving the goalposts because you want to avoid dealing with the scenario that YOU concocted. I'm asking you to flip it. The wife knows how much this means to the husband and her request for him to leave is just a whim, nothing important at all. So, what should the wife do in this case?

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Now you're moving the goalposts because you want to avoid dealing with the scenario that YOU concocted. I'm asking you to flip it. The wife knows how much this means to the husband and her request for him to leave is just a whim, nothing important at all. So, what should the wife do in this case?
    I think she would be a bitch to do that, but it doesn't change the fact that it is still her choice, and if he makes her uncomfortable for some reason, then that sucks, but that's just how it is. If you guys gave birth, then it would be the same way for you.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Some women wouldn't be able to give their children up for adoption. They are PEOPLE, not baby birthing machines.
    That still wouldn't mean the choice is not there. It just means that women of good character can't give up their kids.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I think she would be a bitch to do that, but it doesn't change the fact that it is still her choice, and if he makes her uncomfortable for some reason, then that sucks, but that's just how it is. If you guys gave birth, then it would be the same way for you.
    Freaking Female Privilege is as unmovable as Mt. Rushmore.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That still wouldn't mean the choice is not there. It just means that women of good character can't give up their kids.
    yes, but by denying them any kind of support from the OTHER responsible parent, then you are basically forcing them to give up their children, either by abortion or adoption, or to starve, whatever. Either that, or you're willing to put the responsibility onto everyone else.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Freaking Female Privilege is as unmovable as Mt. Rushmore.
    It has nothing to do with privilege. It's just the way it is because of nature.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Freaking Female Privilege is as unmovable as Mt. Rushmore.
    And they want equality...which translates to "even more than they already have".

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    I think a lot of the guys on this thread are suffering from uterus envy.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Freaking Female Privilege is as unmovable as Mt. Rushmore.
    Speaking of which, we need to get a female face up there. Perhaps we can modify one of the existing ones.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    And they want equality...which translates to "even more than they already have".
    What do we have? The ability to deliver a baby without the father being present? The ability to decide whether or not to abort a baby (which is a decision you have to LIVE with) or to perhaps have it and live a life of poverty? WTH is WRONG with you?

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