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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You don't seem to grasp that some people consider a fetus to be a person. How can you say to them that the "child's" right to life is subordinate to the mother's right to privacy? That just doesn't work with any intellectual honesty.
    It's easy, just tell those people that there is no right to see your kid being born, never has been. Not even in Christ's time.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    He can simply sue her for financial damage to compensate him for the loss of an irreplaceable experience. Simple.
    I agree it is simple, he'd lose and the case wouldnt even make it to court
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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    It's ****. It's my child as well as hers. She has no right to stop me from seeing it being born. I'm absolutely sick of mothers being permitted to step on the rights of fathers.
    This might be the first time I've said this with you, but I tend to agree. If he will be supporting her and the child, he should be involved in the child's life.
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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You were arguing that somehow the man is acting towards the woman by being the room. Prove it. You were also arguing that she has the right to control who is in a room on property she does not own. Again, prove it.
    No I've not. I've simply said...
    1. He has no medical reason to be there.
    2. A woman has complete control over who sees her vagina, and when.
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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Watching someone else have a baby isn't "experiencing" much of anything, it's watching.
    So seeing something is not an experience? Interesting.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Yeah, and that would just end up costing him the legal fees in the end. It's a medical procedure and she gets to say who attends and who doesn't. Once again, they're not even married, so he doesn't even have that argument to make.
    I'm not so sure.

    Courts have already determined that a parent can't sign away a child's legal right to support. A mother can't release a father from his obligation to support the child, thereby harming the child.

    What we're talking about in this case is a conflict between the mother's right to the privacy of a medical procedure and the child's right to have a tighter emotional bond to its father.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    This might be the first time I've said this with you, but I tend to agree. If he will be supporting her and the child, he should be involved in the child's life.
    Life, yes, birth, only with mother's permission.
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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I don't need a medical reason to be there and how in the hell am I acting towards her body by being in the room? Get real. Her right to her body doesn't extend towards the entirety of the room. She doesn't own the damn room. I can be where I damn well please, and I have a right to the child, just as she does. I have a right see my child being born, period.
    is that in the constitution?
    What right is that?
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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    No I've not. I've simply said...
    1. He has no medical reason to be there.
    He doesn't need one.

    2. A woman has complete control over who sees her vagina, and when.
    Tell that to those women bitching about people seeing their pussy when wearing a skirt, but failing to wear panties. I bet they will all agree, but everyone else that saw their pussy during the day won't agree.

    Still we aren't even talking about that. We are talking about being in the room. I wasn't looking at girlfriend pussy when my daughter was born. I was near the front of the bed and couldn't see it.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You don't seem to grasp that some people consider a fetus to be a person. How can you say to them that the "child's" right to life is subordinate to the mother's right to privacy? That just doesn't work with any intellectual honesty.
    I grasp that some people's beliefs are wrong, and therefore shouldn't be forced on anyone other than themselves. Hence each mother's right to privacy supersedes anyone else beliefs or considerations, be they acceptable to you or not.
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