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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    Proposed by whom and where, but more importantly how is it relevant?
    Proposed by the person I quoted, at the location navigated to by clicking on the blue arrow therein. It's relevant because the person chose to consider the ruling at hand in a wider context. Do you object to considering wider context regarding the ruling herein? If so, by what neglect of intellectual considerations do you arrive at this narrow-minded objection.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I don't need a medical reason to be there and how in the hell am I acting towards her body by being in the room? Get real. Her right to her body doesn't extend towards the entirety of the room. She doesn't own the damn room. I can be where I damn well please, and I have a right to the child, just as she does. I have a right see my child being born, period.
    No, you don't. Period.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I don't need a medical reason to be there and how in the hell am I acting towards her body by being in the room? Get real. Her right to her body doesn't extend towards the entirety of the room. She doesn't own the damn room. I can be where I damn well please, and I have a right to the child, just as she does. I have a right see my child being born, period.
    If you aren't married really you have no right to her info. Even when you are there are still privacy laws in place. Technically it is not even legal to disclose medical info to a spouse unless they designate so.

    According to the law, you don't have a right to peep in on her medical procedures if she doesn't want and neither does she have the right to do so to you. The gray area would come in with this still being the father's child and possibly a custody/parental right thing, but medically there is nothing that gives you any right to witness the birth of your child if the mother wishes for you not to be there.
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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    No, you don't. Period.
    Unless you're the woman the state doesn't consider you having much rights at all. For that reason I don't care what they think.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Are you n the medical field?

    If a mother is in immense pain, it will physiologically have a negative effect on the mother and possibly baby.

    A mother stroking out from a hypertensive crisis due to excruciating pain is just FITH!

    I do not think many of you appreciate the risks of childbirth and labor and delivery.

    But on the pain control note, many women try for a natural childbirth. They may even go through classes to manage the pain and facilitate child birth. Of utmost importance is relaxation. Having an unwelcome observer seems like it is the polar opposite of attempting to maintain relaxation.

    Seriously guys. Give it up. You want control and you cannot have it.

    In the case of the man taking the pregnant woman to court....does anybody here think this was emotionally or physiologically a good thing for the mom (and baby that shares her life)
    Excellent post. The bolded part is exactly what I've been thinking with all the posts of men who demand the right to force themselves into what will possibly be the most physically and emotionally traumatic event in a woman's life... because if they can force themselves into the birthing process, they feel as if they are personally in control of it.

    P.S. They aren't.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Unless you're the woman the state doesn't consider you having much rights at all. For that reason I don't care what they think.
    Sounds like a temper tantrum.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    If you aren't married really you have no right to her info. Even when you are there are still privacy laws in place. Technically it is not even legal to disclose medical info to a spouse unless they designate so.
    Unless the medical procedure is a vasectomy and then many, though not all, physicians will try to skirt around the law by refusing to perform the procedure unless your wife consents, which is not mandated by law. I suppose they're not too happy about being sued by wives who've wasted years in a marriage unable to conceive and somehow finding out about the vasectomy.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Sounds like a temper tantrum.
    A temper tantrum over a couple he doesn't even know, no less.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Sounds like a temper tantrum.
    Sounds more like I'm pissed off at the system.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Sounds more like I'm pissed off at the system.
    A system that promotes privacy and allows a woman at her most vulnerable to not to become more stressed out - which may cause rise in heart rate and blood pressure and possible stroke.


    Yup, that would piss anyone off!

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