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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    And who is a better advocate of the mother's wishes than her husband? In medical treatment there is express consent and implied consent. Once she is in enough pain or on enough drugs the doc can simply declare her incompetent and go to implied consent, which could be "of course would have wanted to go Ceasarian" or "she would have wanted potosin if she thought about it". Who better than her husband to be sure her wishes are kept than her husband?

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I think it's ****. If I'm the father I have a right to see the child.
    This is shockingly petty even for you.

    They're estranged, and she's under no obligation to allow somebody to be present at a personal medical procedure whatever his claim to rights may be.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Oh, I don't know, maybe because that child will be a part of his life until the day he dies and the bond he has with that child might be the most important thing in his life. You know, maybe.
    But that bond has nothing to do with being in the delivery room against the mother's wishes. That bond will be just as tight if he sees her an hour after birth or even later. The moment he holds the child in his arms he will feel that bond. Again, there is no right to impose your presence upon a mother about to deliver.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    And who is a better advocate of the mother's wishes than her husband? In medical treatment there is express consent and implied consent. Once she is in enough pain or on enough drugs the doc can simply declare her incompetent and go to implied consent, which could be "of course would have wanted to go Ceasarian" or "she would have wanted potosin if she thought about it". Who better than her husband to be sure her wishes are kept than her husband?
    While I would be inclined to agree, going into delivery without such an advocate is ultimately the woman's risk to take if she should so choose.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    But the father, exercising his parental rights, declares that his baby wants him in there. By what reasoning do the mother's rights override the rights of the baby?
    Medical privacy .....not that the baby is capable of wanting anything at that point.....

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Which no one can explain how it makes sense.
    Once again, incorrect. It's medical privacy.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    This is shockingly petty even for you.

    They're estranged, and she's under no obligation to allow somebody to be present at a personal medical procedure whatever his claim to rights may be.
    I don't see anyone arguing that them being estranged makes a bit of difference to the situation. People here are arguing the man has no rights at all in the situation no matter his relation with the woman. I think it is absolute **** and I don't care if I'm being petty about it.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Oh, I don't know, maybe because that child will be a part of his life until the day he dies and the bond he has with that child might be the most important thing in his life. You know, maybe.
    And apparently that emotional need for a bond is more important than the health and welfare of the child.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I don't see anyone arguing that them being estranged makes a bit of difference to the situation. People here are arguing the man has no rights at all in the situation no matter his relation with the woman. I think it is absolute **** and I don't care if I'm being petty about it.
    All adult patients have the right to privacy during any medical visit or medical procedure. Another person's relationship status to that patient is irrelevant. Assuming you're an adult, for example, your mother can't forcibly be present at any doctor's visit or medical procedure of yours. And a mother can think of allllllll sorts of reasons for why she should be present.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    But that bond has nothing to do with being in the delivery room against the mother's wishes. That bond will be just as tight if he sees her an hour after birth or even later. The moment he holds the child in his arms he will feel that bond. Again, there is no right to impose your presence upon a mother about to deliver.
    How about I just not show up then? I will stay at home watching tv and she go to the hospital alone. Then whenever I get around to it I will hold the child. Seems legit.

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