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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    All due respect but this line of reasoning fly's in the face of common sense. Everyone in the damn room would be a complete stranger to the Mother. Ex boyfriend and perhaps her Mom would be the exception. It's not about privacy Rogue, come on stop that silly crap. Yes I get that the laws says she has a right to privacy but you have to admit this is a ridiculous argument that somehow the ex is no longer allowed to see her naked but everyone else is.. LOL

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    Everyone else in the room serves a purpose there (doctors or nurses) or has permission from the mother to be there. That is the difference. Just like the hospital won't let the janitor or someone like that in the room during a delivery. Even students or other people who might wish to "observe" through the hospital would need the permission of the mother to do so.
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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    If a mother missed a milestone, she would lose her mind. You're all a hyper-emotional, jumbled mess...evidenced by this court case. "I don't want him to be here for this event because I don't like him."
    Parents miss milestones all the time in childraising. It happens even when both parents are together raising the child. Most of the time at least one parent is working. Sometimes they are out of the country even or across the country (I missed at least a couple of things for one of my sons or the other due to having to go out of state for at least a month at a time for the reserves or when I was active duty, my husband's missed many being active duty the last 4 years).
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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Well, less pain anyways.
    But you can't possibly know the amount of pain any woman would truly have to begin with if she took the meds vice not taking the meds and considering the meds don't always work, then it really is impossible to say. And not all women take the meds. And many men are quick to say that they would take the meds no matter what. (Don't get me wrong, most women take the meds, although it is going down given the newer birthing methods that make it a bit easier.)
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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Parents miss milestones all the time in childraising. It happens even when both parents are together raising the child. Most of the time at least one parent is working. Sometimes they are out of the country even or across the country (I missed at least a couple of things for one of my sons or the other due to having to go out of state for at least a month at a time for the reserves or when I was active duty, my husband's missed many being active duty the last 4 years).
    Ever kick him out as they were about to take their first steps?

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Ever kick him out as they were about to take their first steps?
    Not the same. His first steps would not involve me getting naked. His first steps are not going to be taken in a hospital or in a high stress and pain situation where extra can cause serious issues with blood pressure, tension, tightening of muscles, etc. that could cause major medical problems (in all likelihood).

    Of course, if we started having a fight or he lit up a cigarette or something like that, yeah, he would get kicked out. Heck, if it was some sort of fight right at that moment, we might both end up leaving the room because fighting in front of a child can cause serious issues.
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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Not the same. His first steps would not involve me getting naked. His first steps are not going to be taken in a hospital or in a high stress and pain situation where extra can cause serious issues with blood pressure, tension, tightening of muscles, etc. that could cause major medical problems (in all likelihood).

    Of course, if we started having a fight or he lit up a cigarette or something like that, yeah, he would get kicked out. Heck, if it was some sort of fight right at that moment, we might both end up leaving the room because fighting in front of a child can cause serious issues.
    Your husband must've knocked you up fully clothed in the dark.

    Naked...lol. Legitimate excuse.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Your husband must've knocked you up fully clothed in the dark.

    Naked...lol. Legitimate excuse.
    Doesn't matter how he knocked me up. Relationships change. Mine hasn't changed to a point where my husband and I are on bad terms (hopefully it won't). This couple's did.
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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    Disagree.

    The child is physically a part of her, as it is attached to and living off of her body. After the birth you would be correct, but not until then.
    I still disagree. While the baby is growing and developing inside the mothers body, she did not conceive the baby by herself.

    It takes two to tango. That baby is equal parts of both people.

    Sorry....but if she dislikes the father that much to deny him the right to witness the birth....perhaps she shouldn't have bedded down with him in the first place.

    I don't care how much animosity there is between two adults..they have children together, they both better pull their heads from their asses and put those differences aside and figure out how to be parents. Separate yet together if it comes to that.
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    Fool me twice....shame on me.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Doesn't matter how he knocked me up. Relationships change. Mine hasn't changed to a point where my husband and I are on bad terms (hopefully it won't). This couple's did.
    Even if it did, would you deprive him of this?

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Even if it did, would you deprive him of this?
    If we got pregnant right before a split up and it went bad, yes. I've already said that if he was stressful to me during the other births and we were still on good terms otherwise, I would not allow him in. His feelings being hurt take low priority to the baby's and my own health. And any father/husband/SO who doesn't understand that is selfish.

    (Now, I've already discussed this with my husband and he actually agrees with me. He really doesn't want to be in the delivery room anyways. He had no interest in watching our children just be born and he was just there to provide me with comfort and support. If he isn't providing me that, he understands that he should just wait outside.)
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