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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I think it's ****. If I'm the father I have a right to see the child.
    You can see it after it's out of the delivery room if the mother doesn't want you in there.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    So you refuse to recognize your political opponent's position and instead push forward with your narrative as if it is absolute truth. I bet that gets you far.
    No, I recognize people have their own positions and respect each women to CHOOSE according to her individual beliefs. Now let's stop derailing the point of this thread, k?
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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    The fact that we require father's to financially provide support, indicates that a woman is not totally independent in the process of conceiving and bringing up children. As such, a father should have some rights to see the birth of a child. If the woman is indeed totally independent, then she should bear the sole responsibility for conceiving and bringing up children. Which would mean that father's should not be require to financially provide support.
    If you substitute out "see the birth of" with "participate in the raising of" I think you're mostly there. There never has been such a right.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Now let's stop derailing the point of this thread, k?
    Spare me the condescension.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    If you substitute out "see the birth of" with "participate in the raising of" I think you're mostly there. There never has been such a right.
    The process of giving birth is part of raising a child.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I well undertand the frustration involved in your view, but that last part, trust me, you're cutting off your nose to spite your face.
    I know, but if your wife is that whack you got to know her family are a sack full of nutters!

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrabaholic View Post
    You can see it after it's out of the delivery room if the mother doesn't want you in there.
    But the father, exercising his parental rights, declares that his baby wants him in there. By what reasoning do the mother's rights override the rights of the baby?

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrabaholic View Post
    You can see it after it's out of the delivery room if the mother doesn't want you in there.
    Great, so I'm treated like the damn uncle or something.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    It's ****. It's my child as well as hers. She has no right to stop me from seeing it being born. I'm absolutely sick of mothers being permitted to step on the rights of fathers.
    Incorrect. She *does* have that right, as this ruling affirms.

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    Re: New Jersey Judge Blocks Dad From Delivery Room

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    If you substitute out "see the birth of" with "participate in the raising of" I think you're mostly there. There never has been such a right.
    There never was a right for two dudes to marry each other either and then very quickly judges are seeing the invisible ink written down in the Constitution which declares that this right was always there.

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