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    Re: Two dead after drunk plows through SXSW crowd

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    How about some personal responsibility of the criminal.
    Iirc, there's nothing in the dram shop laws which removes responsibility for the person who DUIs. That person is still subject to the full and regular set of prosecutions and penalties.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Two dead after drunk plows through SXSW crowd

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    A Little to do with it? He was running from the cops and you want to blame a bar tender.

    I think the owner of the car that let him steal it should be responsable for the 2 deaths and many injuries. After all if the car wasn't reported stolen, maybe the cop would not have been chasing him.
    The criminal who killed these three people is the one who is to blame the most, he has the blood of three people on his hands. But, if a bartender has over served him on liquor than that bartender is also partly to blame.
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    Re: Two dead after drunk plows through SXSW crowd

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    The criminal who killed these three people is the one who is to blame the most, he has the blood of three people on his hands. But, if a bartender has over served him on liquor than that bartender is also partly to blame.
    No he is not. The guy ran because he was driving a stolen car. His blood alcohol level was .11 which used to be the legal limit, almost. There is no indication this guy was falling down drunk.

    You can't hold the vender of a product to blame when it is the buyers choice what he does with the product. If you could car manufacturer would be out of business.

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    Re: Two dead after drunk plows through SXSW crowd

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    No he is not. The guy ran because he was driving a stolen car. His blood alcohol level was .11 which used to be the legal limit, almost. There is no indication this guy was falling down drunk.

    You can't hold the vender of a product to blame when it is the buyers choice what he does with the product. If you could car manufacturer would be out of business.
    First off all, I said it was the guy who did the crime who was the main culprit. I then said that IF a bartender has over served him on liquor then they are to be blamed too. I am not blaming anybody right now, but IF it is shown that a bar/club/pub had over poured him then this will be something they can and should be sued for because I have heard that this is illegal to do.
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    Re: Two dead after drunk plows through SXSW crowd

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    First off all, I said it was the guy who did the crime who was the main culprit. I then said that IF a bartender has over served him on liquor then they are to be blamed too. I am not blaming anybody right now, but IF it is shown that a bar/club/pub had over poured him then this will be something they can and should be sued for because I have heard that this is illegal to do.
    But you know his BAC was 0.11. That's equivalent to 4 or 5 drinks. We can stop playing "what if" and acknowledge there is no bartender to place blame here. The guy ran because he was in a stolen car and got busted. He's a moron.

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    Re: Two dead after drunk plows through SXSW crowd

    Quote Originally Posted by StringBean View Post
    But you know his BAC was 0.11. That's equivalent to 4 or 5 drinks. We can stop playing "what if" and acknowledge there is no bartender to place blame here. The guy ran because he was in a stolen car and got busted. He's a moron.
    I am sorry but BAC 0.11 is over the limit. I do not know how drunk that is but it is too much according to Texas law. Over serving or serving to someone who was already intoxicated is a crime under Texas law. I do not know if that happened here, all I am saying that IF that happened then the business should be held accountable too.

    With 0.11 there is (according to one website I found) you can already be staggering, have slurred speech etc. Now in this case most likely there is no case here for that warrants prosecution but yesterday I watched Bar Rescue where I saw the owner force his staff to pour liquor to people who were totally and utterly drunk, so drunk that responsible owners would not have ordered their employees to keep liquoring them up.
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