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Missing Malysian Airliner Continued to Fly on For Hours (Confirmed)

Wow, this is getting even more baffling. Looks like the Tom Clancy thriller conspiracies seem to be coming to fruition. My question is why did the airplane manufacturers allow access to the transponders so they can be deactivated? It should be mandatory for all civilian airliners to have a tamper proof transponder so no one will be able to deactivate it unless its on the ground.

As a pilot I am going to say no. That is a stupid idea.

Transponders sometimes malfunction and give erroneous data, and need to be shut off so they don't screw with air traffic control radar and a critical piece of safety equipment called TCAS. (a system designed to prevent mid-air collisions) And when that transponder has an electrical problem and the wires start to smoke, I need to shut it off before it starts my avionics on fire.
 
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As a pilot I am going to say no. That is a stupid idea.

Transponders sometimes malfunction and give erroneous data, and need to be shut off so they don't screw with air traffic control radar and a critical piece of safety equipment called TCAS. (a system designed to prevent mid-air collisions) And when that transponder has an electrical problem and the wires start to smoke, I need to shut it off before it starts my avionics on fire.

OK, thanks for the heads up, I wasnt aware that they could be a fire hazard or give off bad info. You learn something new every day.
 
LOL a daily live press conference debunks it.. watch it tomorrow live if you want. You are spreading rumour, bull**** and out right lies... just like the Chinese satellite pictures supposedly showing wreckage... also bull****, and a waste of time.
The Malaysians are denying the WSJ article, they have not debunked it. Big difference there. And right now they arent saying anything since they dont know so anything is possible at this point.
 
OK, thanks for the heads up, I wasnt aware that they could be a fire hazard or give off bad info. You learn something new every day.

Well, any electrical device can be a fire hazard! It's why your house has circuit breakers.

Airliners have more than one transponder, so in this case it seems like the transponders were turned off deliberately. The other option being a major electrical failure causing both transponders to fail, or causing the pilots elect to keep them off.

A semi plausible scenario is that the plane had such an electrical failure and the pilots knew they wouldn't make it to their destination on emergency power, so attempted to return home to familiar territory because by then they might literally be navigating with their eyeballs. (yeesh, and I'd be shocked if they even had the charts on board that would help with that)

However, electrical systems on an airliner are highly redundant. I think that would be an unprecedented situation for a 777.
 
Same with the crummy Chinese satellite pics that were release days after the fact. One or several entities are hiding something.

The low-quality satellite picture showed possible objects in the water from Sunday. Such objects were not necessarily from the missing plane, but that did amount to a possible lead in the search for the plane.

Right now, there's very little solid information. The plane disappeared from the radar relatively early in its flight. Its transponder had stopped transmitting information. That's about all that is currently known.

Malaysia's contradictory reports don't necessarily mean that that country or others are "hiding" what happened. The convergence of pressures to respond to families who are pressing the authorities for information that could provide certainty/closure (which is largely absent) and lack of crisis communication experience probably may be a better explanation. I do believe Malaysia needs to be more careful about the information it is communicating--keep it limited and focused strictly on the facts that are known; don't provide content that has not been verified.

The media, however, is not under the same kind of pressure that those involved in the investigation are facing. The media is in a stronger position to refrain from disseminating speculative material. It should do so.
 
The media, however, is not under the same kind of pressure that those involved in the investigation are facing. The media is in a stronger position to refrain from disseminating speculative material. It should do so.

While we're at it, I'd like a unicorn.
 
maybe a mod could remove the "confirmed" from the thread title, substitute "debunked", or move the thread to "conspiracy theories"
 
A scoop infers being first with a credible story. Publishing speculative material that may or may not be reliable isn't really a scoop.

I'm not surprised that the story ran. In an era where journalistic accountability isn't given the emphasis it deserves (something that reflects badly on journalism in general), there will be no consequences for the publication if the story proves false. I highly doubt that the newspaper will even publish a retraction or apology to readers for its inaccurate report. In this environment, the implicit journalistic obligation to test the information and refrain from publishing or reporting material of questionable or worse value is routinely ignored.

The American public (and my guess is that the same holds true for international audiences) has noticed the inaccurate reporting, among other negative outcomes. Two-thirds or more believe that reporting is inaccurate and also that media tries to cover up its mistakes.

http://www.people-press.org/2013/08...iticized-for-accuracy-bias-and-news-judgment/

Omission of a correction should the story in question prove inaccurate would be consistent with covering up mistakes, as the omission would be intended for the public to forget the story, something that can happen quite easily in today's glut of information.

It's a pretty credible story now.. US is moving ships into the Indian Ocean. So this isn't even close to debunked.

But I doubt Pete and others will admit they are wrong. I said from the start of this topic. We'll find it in the Indian Ocean. Malaysian military radar picked up the plane in Straits of Malacca. So it was heading West, not to China. So it can't be in the South China Sea.
 
It's fake. The engines stopped at 1.07. they didn't fact check even a little bit. Just the normal leel of disinformation to an uncritically accepting drone readership. Mushrooms: kept in the dark and fed a load of bull.....

Looks like its not fake:

Malaysia Airliner Communications Shut Down Separately, US Officials Say - ABC News
Missing plane sent signals to satellite for hours
A Malaysia Airlines plane was sending signals to a satellite for four hours after the aircraft went missing, an indication that it was still flying, said a U.S. official briefed on the search for the plane.

The Boeing 777-200 wasn't transmitting data to the satellite, but was instead sending out a signal to establish contact, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to discuss the situation by name.

Boeing offers a satellite service that can receive a stream of data during flight on how the aircraft is functioning. Malaysia Airlines didn't subscribe to that service, but the plane still had the capability of connecting with the satellite and was automatically sending pings, the official said.

The continuing pings led searchers to believe the plane could have flown more than 1,000 miles beyond its last confirmed sighting on radar, the official said. The plane had enough fuel to fly about four more hours, he said.

Messages involving a different data service also were received from the airliner for a short time after the plane's transponder — a device used to identify the plane to radar — went silent, the official said.
Who's the drone now, eh? :lol:
 
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