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    Re: OVERTIME OVERHAUL Obama reportedly to issue order expanding eligibility

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    He isn't a "supposed salaried individual"; he's a salaried individual.

    And non-exempt salaried employees get paid overtime if they work more than 40 hours.
    No, a salaried employee would not get OT. Salaries means you are paid a certain amount each year, regardless of the hours you worked.

    If they are eligible for OT, they are defined as hourly and hours would have to be tracked for that employee to ensure the company is not violating the law.

    It's actualyl pathetic you keep arguing this completely losing position.

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    Re: OVERTIME OVERHAUL Obama reportedly to issue order expanding eligibility

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    This isnt evening anything. Its forcing businesses to increase costs for "social justice" not business needs. This makes all ready jittery businesses morre afraid. Business thrives when conditions are stable. This is another destabilizing diktate. You are drawn to the emotional arguememt of "fairness" and you dont give a damn if everyone has to pay more, you dont give a damn if opportunity is lost to others you see "fairness" and personal short term gain. That sort of short sighted, selfish emotionally driven thinking is why this country is 17 trillion in debt.
    You do an awful lot of whining yourself for someone whining about whiners
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    Re: OVERTIME OVERHAUL Obama reportedly to issue order expanding eligibility

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    That also a limiting factor, because that's all they're going to get. That's why we have cops who have to take a second job if they want to expand beyond their salaries. The exempt employee typically has a way to increase their salary at will.
    I think you need to edit that post. I think you misworded it. I don't think it says what you want it to say
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    Re: OVERTIME OVERHAUL Obama reportedly to issue order expanding eligibility

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    So we have to accept that we will need to pay more for things so that we can get paid more in order to afford the rising costs of things? What is this actually accomplishing?
    Oh, come on. Maybe we should all just make minimum wage so things will be cheap.

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    Re: OVERTIME OVERHAUL Obama reportedly to issue order expanding eligibility

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    It's called economic growth and prosperity

    maybe someday, the right will start promoting it
    Inflation isn't economic growth.
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    Re: OVERTIME OVERHAUL Obama reportedly to issue order expanding eligibility

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    And if you work for an employer that allows flexibility for its' workers, then you have flexibility. Employers are free to grant such flexibility to any employee, exempt or not.

    Flexibility depends on the employer, not the employee's exempt status
    No, couldn't be further from the truth. Hourly workers don't have the flexibility in pay or in hours. The reality of the business dictates who gets overtime hours and when, management, the salaried employees ultimately decide that by what is best for the business. Salaried employees typically have some sort of bonus structure that is tied to the success of the business. If overtime costs less than the work brings in, fine. But the majority of the time the goal of management is to balance the business so no overtime is available.

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    Re: OVERTIME OVERHAUL Obama reportedly to issue order expanding eligibility

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    No, a salaried employee would not get OT. Salaries means you are paid a certain amount each year, regardless of the hours you worked.
    Obviously, it does not mean what you say it means because salaried employees who are non-exempt can be paid more if they work overtime.

    Here is the DOL's definition of salaried. Note how it does not say "salaried means you are paid a certain amount each year, regardless of the hours you worked"
    http://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/complian...17g_salary.pdf
    Being paid on a “salary basis” means an employee regularly receives a predetermined amount of compensation
    each pay period on a weekly, or less frequent, basis. The predetermined amount cannot be reduced
    because of
    variations in the quality or quantity of the employee’s work
    And note how it doesn't say that the amount "can't be increased"
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    Re: OVERTIME OVERHAUL Obama reportedly to issue order expanding eligibility

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Inflation isn't economic growth.
    Economies that grow have inflation
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    Re: OVERTIME OVERHAUL Obama reportedly to issue order expanding eligibility

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Oh, come on. Maybe we should all just make minimum wage so things will be cheap.
    If we all made minimum wage (or median wage, in this case) we'd all be broke whether median wage was $7.00 or $1,000,000.00.
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    Re: OVERTIME OVERHAUL Obama reportedly to issue order expanding eligibility

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, couldn't be further from the truth. Hourly workers don't have the flexibility in pay or in hours.
    Untrue. I have worked hourly jobs where I set the hours.
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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