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    Re: OVERTIME OVERHAUL Obama reportedly to issue order expanding eligibility

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Of course not indeed. Exempt employees often have more flexibility than non-exempt employees, correct?
    You seem to keep flipping back and forth between two issues and it is giving the appearance that you are either confused or contradicting yourself. So let me try to clarify your position for myself. Are you saying -

    1-all salaried employees are exempt (so an employee can not be salaried and non-exempt)
    2-all salaried employees have a more flexible work schedule
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    Re: OVERTIME OVERHAUL Obama reportedly to issue order expanding eligibility

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Of course not indeed. Exempt employees often have more flexibility than non-exempt employees, correct?
    I went from hourly to salary with my company.

    i have a lot more free time now as a salary employee than i did as hourly.

    as an hourly employee i had to come into the office and ensure that i logged all my hours etc... i had a super that was pain in the rear which is why i worked the night shift to avoid that mess.

    i got a promotion a nice raise was making more than i could make as an hourly person. now i get to work from home. as long as my work get done no one questions it.
    i have to track hours just for auditing purposes and the fact that i charge other departments.

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    Re: OVERTIME OVERHAUL Obama reportedly to issue order expanding eligibility

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    You seem to keep flipping back and forth between two issues and it is giving the appearance that you are either confused or contradicting yourself. So let me try to clarify your position for myself. Are you saying -

    1-all salaried employees are exempt (so an employee can not be salaried and non-exempt)
    2-all salaried employees have a more flexible work schedule
    1) Employers often offer exempt employees more flexibility than they do to non-exempt employees.

    2) all salaried employees are exempt from the Fair Labor Standards Act. If you are subject to the Fair Labor Standards Act, you can not be salaried and will be an hourly employee eligible for OT and the like.

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    Re: OVERTIME OVERHAUL Obama reportedly to issue order expanding eligibility

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    I went from hourly to salary with my company.

    i have a lot more free time now as a salary employee than i did as hourly.

    as an hourly employee i had to come into the office and ensure that i logged all my hours etc... i had a super that was pain in the rear which is why i worked the night shift to avoid that mess.

    i got a promotion a nice raise was making more than i could make as an hourly person. now i get to work from home. as long as my work get done no one questions it.
    i have to track hours just for auditing purposes and the fact that i charge other departments.
    Exactly. most businesses are like that. I had the same experience. but am now back to hourly. I hate it, but I still like my job... So what can I do...

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    Re: OVERTIME OVERHAUL Obama reportedly to issue order expanding eligibility

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    Ignorant comments are always the most convincing.

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    Re: OVERTIME OVERHAUL Obama reportedly to issue order expanding eligibility

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    1)
    Employers often offer exempt employees more flexibility than they do to non-exempt employees.
    true

    2) all salaried employees are exempt from the Fair Labor Standards Act. If you are subject to the Fair Labor Standards Act, you can not be salaried and will be an hourly employee eligible for OT and the like.
    This is incorrect. All salaried employees are not exempt.

    In order for an exemption to apply, an employee’s specific job duties and salary must meet all the requirements of the Department’s regulations.
    http://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/complian...a_overview.htm

    There are additional requirements that must be met it is not as simple as you appear to be saying here.
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    Re: OVERTIME OVERHAUL Obama reportedly to issue order expanding eligibility

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    You are incorrect. If they are a salaried employee, they are also exempt.

    Employee Compensation Law & Legal Definition
    I can't speak for you, but I consider the DOL a more credible authority on the law than some website, not to mention that "sometimes referred to" does not mean "is"

    Or do I have to explain what the meaning of the word "is" is?


    Since they are covered by the law in question, they are not salaried. They are hourly. The employee has to pay them and ensure they are not working more or less then otherwise stated.
    Yeah, I know, I know...people who get a salary are not "salaried"
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: OVERTIME OVERHAUL Obama reportedly to issue order expanding eligibility

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Of course economies can grow without inflation, economies can even grow in times of deflation.. More common, however, are economies that don't grow but still have inflation.
    I guess you missed the words "At least, not for very long"
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    Re: OVERTIME OVERHAUL Obama reportedly to issue order expanding eligibility

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    You seem to keep flipping back and forth between two issues and it is giving the appearance that you are either confused or contradicting yourself. So let me try to clarify your position for myself. Are you saying -

    1-all salaried employees are exempt (so an employee can not be salaried and non-exempt)
    2-all salaried employees have a more flexible work schedule
    And #1 is just not true while #2 has yet to be proven. I think #2 is just conventional wisdom that is not nearly as common as it once was.
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: OVERTIME OVERHAUL Obama reportedly to issue order expanding eligibility

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    1) Employers often offer exempt employees more flexibility than they do to non-exempt employees.

    2) all salaried employees are exempt from the Fair Labor Standards Act. If you are subject to the Fair Labor Standards Act, you can not be salaried and will be an hourly employee eligible for OT and the like.
    #2 - If your salary is less that $445/wk, you are salaried and exempt.

    http://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/complian...a_overview.pdf
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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