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    Re: Russia Slams Violation of Media Freedoms in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Yeah! I could not believe it myself. But Russians in Chrimea officially refer us about their unilateral independence. As if we are the same situation!
    Again, what the hell you are talking about, and how it is related to the topic of the OP?!?


    You were talking about Russians moving into the East of Ukraine - both checkpoints in the Vice video are on two opposite sides of Chonhar - use G-o-o-g-l-e M-A-P to find its location in Ukraine.

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    Re: Russia Slams Violation of Media Freedoms in Ukraine

    Since Russia still insists there are no Russian troops in Crimea, I'm not inclined to believe a damned thing they say.

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    Re: Russia Slams Violation of Media Freedoms in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Fallenangel View Post
    Again, what the hell you are talking about, and how it is related to the topic of the OP?!?
    Sometimes you surprise me how you cannot catchup Fallen.

    http://rt.com/news/crimea-parliament...e-ukraine-086/

    Can you at least connect this link with what I wrote before?
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    Re: Russia Slams Violation of Media Freedoms in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Sometimes you surprise me how you cannot catchup Fallen.

    http://rt.com/news/crimea-parliament...e-ukraine-086/

    Can you at least connect this link with what I wrote before?
    And I ask you again how the hell it has anything to do with the topic of this thread? i.e. generally freedom, freedom of press in Ukraine and specifically "Russia Slams Violation of Media Freedoms in Ukraine"?!?

    btw..I see you managed to Google the approx location of the town and the checkpoints.


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    Re: Russia Slams Violation of Media Freedoms in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Fallenangel View Post
    And I ask you again how the hell it has anything to do with the topic of this thread? i.e. generally freedom, freedom of press in Ukraine and specifically "Russia Slams Violation of Media Freedoms in Ukraine"?!?

    btw..I see you managed to Google the approx location of the town and the checkpoints.

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    Re: Russia Slams Violation of Media Freedoms in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Something in your resource mentioned something and made me reply. You must have Fallen too low these days. Forget it.
    Ah....ok.




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    Re: Russia Slams Violation of Media Freedoms in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Please watch this video and tell me which side is attacking journalists:



    Are those troops from Academi (Blackwater)?

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    Re: Russia Slams Violation of Media Freedoms in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Fallenangel View Post
    I actually included that link in my opening post. Seems no one noticed. The simple reality is that Western media are not going to pay nearly as much attention to these things as it conflicts with the desired narrative. Coverage that portrays the Ukrainian government as anything but the innocent victim of ebil Russian aggression is simply not in the cards. There is only one lord of the world and it does not share power, let alone blame.
    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    The problem is that the violence stopped before Russia invaded.
    No, it didn't. Crime was in the midst of unrest and several people had died during clashes outside the regional parliament. Pro-Kiev demonstrators had even briefly broken into the Crimean parliament and threatened lawmakers. Afterwards Crimean Tatars were talking about arming themselves and the Crimean Russians were also arming themselves. We don't know how it would have played out, but there was a significant risk of the situation turning into a bloody ethnic conflict. Any intervention by the Kiev government would have been ineffectual and probably only inflame the situation. It was right after that battle outside the regional parliament when Russian forces began securing various strategic locations across the peninsula.
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    Re: Russia Slams Violation of Media Freedoms in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yeah. Well, we disagree that the Ukraine has the same significance to the US as it does to Russia. But, besides that, the US started this, not Russia. Having been working in the Ukraine, as we have elsewhere, to encourage and support the overthrow of the elected government by force, the president under fire as his caravan was fleeing, is hardly a democratic process, and regardless of Western propaganda to the contrary, the "new government" was not elected, nor representative of all the Ukrainian people. I've been telling you for a long time that Russia and China (as well as many other smaller, less powerful countries) are tired of US interference and "regime change" in countries that we wish to influence and control. Our ambassadors have been run out of Venezuela for the same thing, we forced the Bolivian presidents plane to the ground and detained it on the field for 8 hours searching through it for Snowden, how stupid was that, and something that Americans would be screaming bloody murder,was an act of war, should it have happened to our president on Air Force One. At any rate, I can't hardly blame Russia for calling bull**** on the US for our subservience in trying to pull Ukraine into the Western orbit, and only makes sense that they would be pulling it back.

    Is the Ukraine of such value to you that you would be willing to risk hostilities with Russia, or in any way spend our blood and treasure on it?
    Monte... as to the majority of your post my friend... Wow, just.... Wow.

    As for the last sentence/question, I will answer with a question. Where should we draw the line? At our borders? If so, it would be too late then.

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    Re: Russia Slams Violation of Media Freedoms in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Are those troops from Academi (Blackwater)?
    LOL... Good one. They're from Serbia, Russian and there are also Cossaks there as well. A very bad combination.

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