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Is the Republican Party in danger of dying out?

Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

Sure I do. But I'm ok with being the one doesn't exaggerate. ;)

since my initial post, had to do with the overall left, and your rebuttals are concentrated in an individual way on me, does say a lot.

i my post got in your crawl and is eating at you, which is a reassurance that my initial post ....it was correct........good day!;)
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

since my initial post, had to do with the overall left, and your rebuttals are concentrated in an individual way on me, does say a lot.

i my post got in your crawl and is eating at you, which is a reassurance that my initial post ....it was correct........good day!;)

I know you don't see the flaw in your original post. It's an over generalization that has no bearing in any issue at all. As I don't make such over generalizations, there us no group that would accurately reflex the issue I have, which is exaggerated over generalizations. So even here, your missing the issue.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

No surprise or mystery here.

I think it has been obvious for a very long time which of the two major parties is the party of perverts and potheads. They're just feeling less need, now, than they once did, to be discrete about it.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

I know you don't see the flaw in your original post. It's an over generalization that has no bearing in any issue at all. As I don't make such over generalizations, there us no group that would accurately reflex the issue I have, which is exaggerated over generalizations. So even here, your missing the issue.

here is what i base my initial post on, ..it speaks for itself.



ask the left, "are rights endowed by the creator"........they will say flat out.........NO!

they believe rights are created by man, a collective body of people, the collective mindset.

collectivism is the opposite of [individualism], ......which is what america was founded on.

under collectivism..... no individual rights exist because the collective decides what they are, and the individual is subservient to that collective.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

here is what i base my initial post on, ..it speaks for itself.



ask the left, "are rights endowed by the creator"........they will say flat out.........NO!

they believe rights are created by man, a collective body of people, the collective mindset.

collectivism is the opposite of [individualism], ......which is what america was founded on.

under collectivism..... no individual rights exist because the collective decides what they are, and the individual is subservient to that collective.

What a load of horse****. How about you stop trying to tell liberals what they believe, since you clearly don't know what you're talking about. This is just another hamfisted attempt to portray liberals as all collectivists.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

What a load of horse****. How about you stop trying to tell liberals what they believe, since you clearly don't know what you're talking about. This is just another hamfisted attempt to portray liberals as all collectivists.

well can you find for me those on the left ,who believe "rights are endowed".........
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

well can you find for me those on the left ,who believe "rights are endowed".........

So one who doesn't think rights come from some sort of deity is automatically a collectivist?
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

when peoples rights are being denied by other people, what is supposed to protect them

government.

but people do not get to determine, what rights are for people.

man, cannot give man a right.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

here is what i base my initial post on, ..it speaks for itself.



ask the left, "are rights endowed by the creator"........they will say flat out.........NO!

they believe rights are created by man, a collective body of people, the collective mindset.

collectivism is the opposite of [individualism], ......which is what america was founded on.

under collectivism..... no individual rights exist because the collective decides what they are, and the individual is subservient to that collective.

All of that is wild exaggerated over generalization.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

Thats a nice opinion.

Think of it this way, back in the 70's, a president by the name of Carter actually got on television and pushed the idea of personal responsibility. Something as simple as wearing a ****ing sweater if one is cold in order to cut down their heating bills. Simple common sense. Simple, pure, unadulterated personal responsibility at it's finest.

He was eviscerated for it. By the GOP.

The GOP doesn't really give flying **** about personal responsibility. That's not an opinion, it's documented fact.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

fine, believe as you will.

It's not belief. There us no such thing as a left that shares complete unified beliefs. Same goes for the right. Most people are some combination of the two, depending on the issue. But even if there really was a unified group of people of any significant number, so what? Are you afraid to merely argue the points? Over generalizing is often done to avoid any real arguments. There is no other real or honest reason for it.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

Think of it this way, back in the 70's, a president by the name of Carter actually got on television and pushed the idea of personal responsibility. Something as simple as wearing a ****ing sweater if one is cold in order to cut down their heating bills. Simple common sense. Simple, pure, unadulterated personal responsibility at it's finest.

He was eviscerated for it. By the GOP.

The GOP doesn't really give flying **** about personal responsibility. That's not an opinion, it's documented fact.

Obama, during the campaign, made some offhanded comment about how properly inflating one's tires improves gas mileage. John McCain ridiculed him for it, even though he was right.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

government.

but people do not get to determine, what rights are for people.

man, cannot give man a right.

You sure about that?

If so, there wouldn't be any dictators.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

Obama, during the campaign, made some offhanded comment about how properly inflating one's tires improves gas mileage. John McCain ridiculed him for it, even though he was right.

If the GOP gave a **** about personal responsibility, they would acknowledge any and all references to it. Instead, they only pay lip service to it regarding stuff they don't want other people to have, such as food stamps for the poor.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

It's not belief. There us no such thing as a left that shares complete unified beliefs. Same goes for the right. Most people are some combination of the two, depending on the issue. But even if there really was a unified group of people of any significant number, so what? Are you afraid to merely argue the points? Over generalizing is often done to avoid any real arguments. There is no other real or honest reason for it.

i am not being partisan, as in one side over the other, even people who say they are on the right, use collectivism in various ways.

if you read of the progressive movement of the late 1800's you will see the progressive promoted the idea of democracy in america, ................america was not a democracy up until that time.

progressives pushed the direct election of senators, and the idea of referendums of the people., which is what the founders wanted to avoid. by the structure of checks an balances.

the founders were against collectivism thru the power of legislation which is why a senate was created, as stated by the James Madison in federalist 63

"The true distinction between these and the American governments, lies in the total exclusion of the people, in their collective capacity, from any share in the latter, and not in the total exclusion of the representatives of the people from the administration of the former"

democracy is collective.

Marxism holds that "democracy is the road to socialism

"Democracy is indispensable to socialism." - Vladimir Lenin
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

i am not being partisan, as in one side over the other, even people who say they are on the right, use collectivism in various ways.

if you read of the progressive movement of the late 1800's you will see the progressive promoted the idea of democracy in america, ................america was not a democracy up until that time.

progressives pushed the direct election of senators, and the idea of referendums of the people., which is what the founders wanted to avoid. by the structure of checks an balances.

the founders were against collectivism thru the power of legislation which is why a senate was created, as stated by the James Madison in federalist 63

"The true distinction between these and the American governments, lies in the total exclusion of the people, in their collective capacity, from any share in the latter, and not in the total exclusion of the representatives of the people from the administration of the former"

democracy is collective.

Marxism holds that "democracy is the road to socialism

"Democracy is indispensable to socialism." - Vladimir Lenin

in other words, the founders believed that the people were incapable of governing.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

You sure about that?

If so, there wouldn't be any dictators.




if man can give any right, then can he give a right to kill?

if man can give rights.....can he take them away, because he just chooses to do so?
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

if man can give any right, then can he give a right to kill?

if man can give rights.....can he take them away, because he just chooses to do so?

Guess what, that is EXACTLY what happens in countries with dictators.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

in other words, the founders believed that the people were incapable of governing.

no the founders believed in the people having a voice in government.....they made sure of that, however they tempted the voice of the people, .....which at times can be seduced and beguiled, by those who lust for power., so they created a senate to cool the hot, and unbridled passion of the people., who would act without thinking.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

A new Pew Research survey seems to indicate that millenials, the age group from 18 to 33, tend to favor gay rights and marijuana legalization. and tend to vote for Democrats. I think it is highly likely that Democrats have embraced these two issues to drive a stake in the heart of the Republican party. Recall recently how Obama spoke in favor of marijuana legalization and came out in favor of gay rights.

Is the Republican Party in danger of dying out? - The Week

Because they're gay pot smokers?
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

The GOP continues to SAY they are for Tax Reform.
Surprising to most politicos, Cantor/Boehner allowed long-time GOP and outgoing Ways and Means Chair Camp to put forth his Tax Reform bill.
We all know by now it was dead before arrival upon proclamation by Sen. McConnell.
What House GOPs aren't counting on is pay-back from incoming Chair Ryan .
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

i am not being partisan, as in one side over the other, even people who say they are on the right, use collectivism in various ways.

if you read of the progressive movement of the late 1800's you will see the progressive promoted the idea of democracy in america, ................america was not a democracy up until that time.

progressives pushed the direct election of senators, and the idea of referendums of the people., which is what the founders wanted to avoid. by the structure of checks an balances.

the founders were against collectivism thru the power of legislation which is why a senate was created, as stated by the James Madison in federalist 63

"The true distinction between these and the American governments, lies in the total exclusion of the people, in their collective capacity, from any share in the latter, and not in the total exclusion of the representatives of the people from the administration of the former"

democracy is collective.

Marxism holds that "democracy is the road to socialism

"Democracy is indispensable to socialism." - Vladimir Lenin

just for a moment read what you just wrote. You support everything I said in this post. There are no real Marxist here. No real socialist. All you could gather of both couldn't will a small town dog catcher election. You have a false premise using a wild exaggerated over generalization. That's all there is to it.
 
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