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Is the Republican Party in danger of dying out?

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Mason66 said:
So do I, but I don't remember most of those words or the way they were written in the DOI.

Has it been changed since I was in school?
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Not unless you went to school before the Revolutionary War.
 
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zgoldsmith23 said:
Declaration of Independence.



One is from Jefferson's original draft. The other is from the CoF.
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What is a CoF?
 
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APACHERAT said:
That's what Democrats do.

Haven't you ever looked at what is under the Democrat tent ? It's a frickin carnival.
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And the GOP tent has mostly old white men under it.

Which is why the GOP will be going out of business before the middle of this century.
 
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shrubnose said:
And the GOP tent has mostly old white men under it.

Which is why the GOP will be going out of business before the middle of this century.
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You forget, in Alternate Universe GOP land, they are the big tent party. I've never seen a larger bunch of self-delusional people. It's like a cult.

The Republican Party has spent the last 50 years alienating blacks, Mexicans and women, and wonder why they're going down the toilet in demographics.
 
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azgreg said:
Maybe, but should a parties sole role be to get votes and not govern?
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Guess what? If you don't get enough votes, you don't get to govern.

Ask Mitt Romney how that works. He's using his car elevator while Barack Obama is living in the White House and running the U.S. government.
 
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Kobie said:
Why is it that every time the Democratic Party takes a socially liberal stance on an issue, the default argument is that they're just sucking up for votes?
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Because Losers always have to offer some excuse, no matter how lame,plain stupid, un-original or lifeless it is.
 
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Fiddytree said:
That's true, but again, what does history tell us about the other side? Taking up a stance to get votes is probably one of the oldest tricks in the book by any stretch of the imagination. If Democrats are having liberal positions so they can get X number of voters with similar views, do you suppose that Republicans are virtuous members of society that adopt a policy simply and only because it's what's right and best? No, they make calculations as well. While Romney was perhaps making remarks about the 47%, he was also sweetening the deal for one portion of his voter base: those with wealth.
Hardly surprising, and not necessarily a bad thing either.
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Unless you want to win an election.
 
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Navy Pride said:
Democrats kiss their butts because they want their vote and would say or do anything to get that...
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And the GOP doesn't 'kiss their butts' and will be going out of business because of that.

Don't take my word for this, just wait and see what happens when massive demographic change hits the GOP full force in the not-distant future.

The clock is ticking on the GOP. No one can stop time and/or change.
 
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MaggieD said:
If it weren't for the way Democrats spend money and ever-increase entitlements, I'd be a Democrat. In social issues, the Republican Party doesn't represent me. I'm all for gay rights/marriage/equal status; I think MJ should be legalized; I think abortion is okay up until 12-16 weeks (not exactly sure on that); I think any legislation that protects minorities' rights that's not at the expense of the rest of us is pretty much fine.

I don't agree with Democrats on immigration. But most especially, I don't agree with their welfare outlook. That program is an abject failure. And I don't agree that more government is the solution to every problem.

The Republican Party had better start morphing.
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Correct.

And that needs to start immediately.

Or the GOP will be going out of business.
 
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digsbe said:
Just 2 different spectrums.
The GoP tends to be more conservative/libertarian on social issues.
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Some support SSM and MJ legalization, but many oppose it due to their belief that it would negatively impact society or it isn't something that is needed/will be abused.

On the other hand, Democrats tend to be more liberal on social issues leaving society to do what it wants unregulated by government.

Where this changes is when it comes to money, economics and other aspects of life. Dems typically want more government control, more taxes, more social programs, more welfare and more regulation of business/the economy where as Republicans tend to oppose or be less imposing in these areas.

I'm all for states legalizing SSM on their own, I'm not for legalizing MJ. Each party has their best view for society, with one being more restrictive on some personal actions (abortion, homosexual marriage, illegal drug use, etc) while the other being more restrictive on some economic actions (higher taxes, more government control, more social programs, more regulation of business, etc). They each have their reasons as to why they are right. The reason Democrats tend to back SSM and MJ in my opinion, is to appeal to their constituents and go along with issues that fit in line with how they want to mold society. Republicans do the same.
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Quite a few (Not all.) people in the GOP want to get government off of Wall Street's back and into every American bedroom.

That is not going to happen.
 
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MaggieD;1063011090[B said:
]It just seems to me that Democrats like to give away fish . . . while Republicans like to create fishermen.
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If you give a man a fish, he can eat for a day. If you teach a man to fish, he will waste all of his time fishing and you can mess around with his woman.
 
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Kobie said:
Why is it that every time the Democratic Party takes a socially liberal stance on an issue, the default argument is that they're just sucking up for votes?
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Because the dem party has a clear history of sucking up for voters? Im a millenial who sees right through it.
 
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MrVicchio said:
If you're under 30 and not a liberal, you're heartless, it you're over 30 and not a conservative, you're brainless.
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Basically this poll says Millennials just ain't grown up, I wonder what possible cause there could be for young adults to be so... immature? Hmmmm....
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This is obviously bull****.
 
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CalGun said:
We have a constitutional right to use firearms, not get high and go out and kill people.
The only reason to legalize it is to stone up another generation so you leftist can enjoy controlling them.
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Wrong.

We don't want to control them.

We want to control you.

And we are going to. Wait and see.




Have a nice day.
 
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CalGun said:
It does matter.
Show me the right to keep and bear MJ in the constitution and if you can't please ignore me cause I'm going to ignore you.
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I cant's stand socialist that live under the "libertarian-left" mantra and pretend to be something they aren't.
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Here's what George Washington had to say about Hemp in a note to his gardener at Mount Vernon: "Make the most of the Indian Hemp seed and sow it everywhere!"
 
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US Conservative said:
Because the dem party has a clear history of sucking up for voters? Im a millenial who sees right through it.
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And the Republicans are virtuous and stand on principle, amirite?
 
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shrubnose said:
And the GOP doesn't 'kiss their butts' and will be going out of business because of that.

Don't take my word for this, just wait and see what happens when massive demographic change hits the GOP full force in the not-distant future.

The clock is ticking on the GOP. No one can stop time and/or change.
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I know the wingnuts here really don't want to hear it, but you're right ... if they don't stop pissing off women or minorities, they'll be lucky to get elected to dog catcher in a couple of decades. Demographics are working against the GOP, and as long as their main constituency -- straight, wealthy white males -- keeps aging out of the electorate (slang for "dying"), they're in deep **** unless they change their tune.
 
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Anthony60 said:
What is it with the left on these boards? I mean the socialist marxist ones, of which there are many. They call themselves democrats. Why be afraid to own up to your beliefs? If you believe in the marxist ideals, guess what? You're a marxist.

You know who you are, the ones that agree with fundamentally changing this country. I'm a conservative, a Constitutionalist. Proud of it.

All the deceit and lying they use. "You've got to pass the bill to know what's in it." "You can keep your plan. Period." If your leaders need to say things like that to get your support, and you find out that they lied to you, and you still support them.
Time to do a little personal reflection and try to figure out what the hell is wrong with you.
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Everyone should do this, from time to time.
 
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X Factor said:
You've kinda supported the OP here, Tucker. Your intended dig at the GOP actually suggests that conservatives (at least social conservatives), unlike Democrats, vote what they believe regardless of popularity. I think that can be both good and bad. BTW, I don't oppose gay rights.
I do oppose legalizing marijuana.
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You are on the losing side of that battle.

Don't take my word for this, just wait and see how it plays out.
 
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Why are The Dems supporting gay rights and legalizing weed?

They want to win elections and seem to know how to do it. This new GOP seems to be doing the exact opposite, they are actually alienating the very people we need to win. Between the ways they treat Women's issues, Minority issues, and those in poverty...they have already set the stage for failure.
 
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disneydude said:
The problem with the term "Libertarian" is that so many Republicans who are too embarrassed to call themselves Republicans started referring to themselves as "Libertarians".
You can always spot a true Liberatarian from an embarrassed Republican Libertarian though.
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Learn all about Looneytarian Libertarians and the Libertarian Party Here:Looneytarian Libertarians and the Libertarian Party

They are even wackier than you think they are.

I kid you not.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

tecoyah said:
Why are The Dems supporting gay rights and legalizing weed?

They want to win elections and seem to know how to do it. This new GOP seems to be doing the exact opposite, they are actually alienating the very people we need to win. Between the ways they treat Women's issues, Minority issues, and those in poverty...they have already set the stage for failure.
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I think this thread is built on a faulty premise. Outside of Colorado and Washington, I haven't seen any evidence that the Democrats, as a national party, are remotely interested in legalizing marijuana.
 
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X Factor said:
You've kinda supported the OP here, Tucker. Your intended dig at the GOP actually suggests that conservatives (at least social conservatives), unlike Democrats, vote what they believe regardless of popularity. I think that can be both good and bad. BTW, I don't oppose gay rights. I do oppose legalizing marijuana.
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Well, then social conservatives can continue to stand on the wrong side of history as far as I'm concerned.
 
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ernst barkmann said:
if it makes you feel better go ahead, and express your view of what you think I believe.

but from what I said, I stand by it,..
the left do not believe in property rights, and they ideas are from a collective mindset
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And Libertarians don't care about human rights because they are totally obsessed with property rights, eh?
 
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