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Is the Republican Party in danger of dying out?

Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

The standalone claim that the Democrats are only interested in political power carries the implication that the GOP are somehow not.

Again, I made no mention of republicans. Republicans pretend to be for small government and for free markets, but in reality there is very little that democrats support that republicans do not.

So the fact that a substance is legal but still regulated means no "liberty"?

Is it really legal? What are you supporting regulating anyway? The activities of individuals that they do to themselves?
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

Again, I made no mention of republicans. Republicans pretend to be for small government and for free markets, but in reality there is very little that democrats support that republicans do not.

Yay!

Is it really legal?

How is it not?

What are you supporting regulating anyway? The activities of individuals that they do to themselves?

It's properly taxed and the laws are designed to keep it out of the hands of children. Also, you can grow it in Colorado.

I'm not sure what you're arguing in favor of or against here.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

That's what Democrats do.

Haven't you ever looked at what is under the Democrat tent ? It's a frickin carnival.

That "carnival" is a snapshot of America today. Ignore it and die.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

A new Pew Research survey seems to indicate that millenials, the age group from 18 to 33, tend to favor gay rights and marijuana legalization. and tend to vote for Democrats. I think it is highly likely that Democrats have embraced these two issues to drive a stake in the heart of the Republican party. Recall recently how Obama spoke in favor of marijuana legalization and came out in favor of gay rights.

Is the Republican Party in danger of dying out? - The Week

Democrats kiss their butts because they want their vote and would say or do anything to get that....
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization


Of course. I am not a republican. If you ask me there is two kinds of republicans. There are those that are idiots that if you are like myself you enjoy watching for the laughs, or the democrats that put the wrong letter in front of their name. Of course, there is also the outliers like Rand Paul, but lets just ignore him since he accounts for a grant total of one person.

That is not to say democrats aren't full of idiots like that Johnson fellow that can't get through a sentence without putting in at least twenty umms between a grand total of five words, all of which are only one syllable long. He is my favorite congressmen. It's all serious business, and then it's his time to ask questions, and I just sit there laughing at him. He really picks up the mood in the room. Good for him. Btw, that dude needs someone to help him shave. He has gone completely white even on his beard, which is fine really, but it's freaking hilarious how he always forgets random spots all over his face. The dude has to be like sixty, and he still can't shave. These are the people that are getting elected in this country. Education fail America.

How is it not?

In-state residents can only buy an ounce at a time. Out-of-staters are limited to 1/4 ounce. Hardly what I consider liberty.
You can’t smoke in public, especially not on federal property.
You can grow your own pot, but you can’t sell it if you’re not licensed by the state.
You can’t take marijuana out of the state.
Medical marijuana is limited in amount.
You have to show your ID to buy it.
Stores can't open before 8 a.m. and they can't stay open later than midnight
Marijuana stores require the shops to have a security camera pointed at the cash register so that it can record "the customer and employee facial features with sufficient clarity to determine identity. Interesting one, ain't it?

There is of course many more, but I think you got the point.

It's properly taxed and the laws are designed to keep it out of the hands of children. Also, you can grow it in Colorado.

Why does every piece of property need to be taxed and why does it matter what kids do to their own bodies? That is a parents issue, and a parents issue alone.

I'm not sure what you're arguing in favor of or against here.

For.
 
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Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

No, liberals don't actually support liberty. I have never seen a liberal support any sort of hint at liberty without government involvement.

well from the left, liberty is based on the collective mindset, not from the prospective of the individual.

so there are no individual property rights.

which all liberty derives out of property.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

Maybe, but should a parties sole role be to get votes and not govern?

If you don't get votes, you don't get to govern.

And the job of our political representatives is to represent us.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

Republicans want to take all your guns they just pretend to like guns so you vote for them. Hahahah stupid conservatives, so easily fooled!
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

well from the left, liberty is based on the collective mindset, not from the prospective of the individual.

so there are no individual property rights.

which all liberty derives out of property.

You have no idea how liberals think, so stop trying to tell people what they think. Unless you'd like me to start telling you what you believe.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

A new Pew Research survey seems to indicate that millenials, the age group from 18 to 33, tend to favor gay rights and marijuana legalization. and tend to vote for Democrats. I think it is highly likely that Democrats have embraced these two issues to drive a stake in the heart of the Republican party. Recall recently how Obama spoke in favor of marijuana legalization and came out in favor of gay rights.

Is the Republican Party in danger of dying out? - The Week

Or maybe those are just typically liberal positions to have?

Nahhhhhhh.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

Do you know the difference between decriminalization and legalization? Tell me, how much control is still on pot in those places like Colorado?

Do you know the difference between decriminalization and legalization, because it isn't about how much regulation is involved with the sell or purchase of a product. For the foreseeable future, there will be some regulation by various governing bodies over the sell, possession, growth, and even taxation of marijuana. It will likely be treated like alcohol and cigarettes.

Decriminalization of marijuana has actually happened in more states than legalization of marijuana has. Decriminalization means removing criminal penalties from marijuana use or possession of small quantities (although there could still be some civil penalties), whereas legalization removes all forms of punishment for any possession of marijuana (with possible exceptions based on age or violation of regulations in place for it) and allows for it to be grown and regulated.

Legality of cannabis by U.S. state - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

well from the left, liberty is based on the collective mindset, not from the prospective of the individual.

so there are no individual property rights.

which all liberty derives out of property.

I do wish I'd read some original thought from time to time instead of weak dribble like this. :coffeepap
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

Or maybe those are just typically liberal positions to have?

Nahhhhhhh.

Didn't you know? Only white, straight, conservative men have legitimate, honest opinions based on serious ideology. Women, minorities, and anyone voting Democrat is an evil, greedy, lazy person with a sinister agenda to destroy America.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

Why is it that every time the Democratic Party takes a socially liberal stance on an issue, the default argument is that they're just sucking up for votes?
Democrats kiss their butts because they want their vote and would say or do anything to get that....
You make it sound like a bad thing for a party to represent the views of its constituency.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

Didn't you know? Only white, straight, conservative men have legitimate, honest opinions based on serious ideology. Women, minorities, and anyone voting Democrat is an evil, greedy, lazy person with a sinister agenda to destroy America.

But naturally.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

But naturally.

Unless, of course, one of said groups votes Republican. Then they're "one of the good ones," they "really get it," and their opinion is sacrosanct. A black person said blacks are lazy racists who vote for handouts, it must be true!
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

A new Pew Research survey seems to indicate that millenials, the age group from 18 to 33, tend to favor gay rights and marijuana legalization. and tend to vote for Democrats. I think it is highly likely that Democrats have embraced these two issues to drive a stake in the heart of the Republican party. Recall recently how Obama spoke in favor of marijuana legalization and came out in favor of gay rights.

Is the Republican Party in danger of dying out? - The Week



Or maybe they are simply appealing to their base, as do all political parties.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

A new Pew Research survey seems to indicate that millenials, the age group from 18 to 33, tend to favor gay rights and marijuana legalization. and tend to vote for Democrats. I think it is highly likely that Democrats have embraced these two issues to drive a stake in the heart of the Republican party. Recall recently how Obama spoke in favor of marijuana legalization and came out in favor of gay rights.

Is the Republican Party in danger of dying out? - The Week

I'm all for gay rights and I voted to totally legalize pot smoking here in Colorado...but guess what...I'm STILL not voting for a Democrat.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

A new Pew Research survey seems to indicate that millenials, the age group from 18 to 33, tend to favor gay rights and marijuana legalization. and tend to vote for Democrats. I think it is highly likely that Democrats have embraced these two issues to drive a stake in the heart of the Republican party. Recall recently how Obama spoke in favor of marijuana legalization and came out in favor of gay rights.

Is the Republican Party in danger of dying out? - The Week

If it weren't for the way Democrats spend money and ever-increase entitlements, I'd be a Democrat. In social issues, the Republican Party doesn't represent me. I'm all for gay rights/marriage/equal status; I think MJ should be legalized; I think abortion is okay up until 12-16 weeks (not exactly sure on that); I think any legislation that protects minorities' rights that's not at the expense of the rest of us is pretty much fine.

I don't agree with Democrats on immigration. But most especially, I don't agree with their welfare outlook. That program is an abject failure. And I don't agree that more government is the solution to every problem.

The Republican Party had better start morphing.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

A new Pew Research survey seems to indicate that millenials, the age group from 18 to 33, tend to favor gay rights and marijuana legalization. and tend to vote for Democrats. I think it is highly likely that Democrats have embraced these two issues to drive a stake in the heart of the Republican party. Recall recently how Obama spoke in favor of marijuana legalization and came out in favor of gay rights.

Is the Republican Party in danger of dying out? - The Week

As a Democrat, I support these issues because they are the "right" thing to do, not to get votes.

But I'm happy if people vote for democratic candidates because they are supporting good issues!
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

That "carnival" is a snapshot of America today. Ignore it and die.

That's an errorless observation.

It's not everyday that a liberal pulls their head out of the sand to makes an observation of the consequences of radical leftist policies.

One of the main objectives of the progressive movement was to preserve America and prevent it from becoming a third world carnival. I think the progressive movement was hijacked by radicals.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

Because if you look at the positions of the GOP, it's obvious that they're not going after votes. :lamo

Ok, that was funny, damn you.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

If it weren't for the way Democrats spend money and ever-increase entitlements, I'd be a Democrat. In social issues, the Republican Party doesn't represent me. I'm all for gay rights/marriage/equal status; I think MJ should be legalized; I think abortion is okay up until 12-16 weeks (not exactly sure on that); I think any legislation that protects minorities' rights that's not at the expense of the rest of us is pretty much fine.

I don't agree with Democrats on immigration. But most especially, I don't agree with their welfare outlook. That program is an abject failure. And I don't agree that more government is the solution to every problem.

The Republican Party had better start morphing.

Gay rights and weed are not Democrat initiatives...they are grass root issues pushed forward by the people. Democrats just oppose those initiatives less than the GOP. The GOP by it's very nature can't change and get with either weed or gays.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

Didn't you know? Only white, straight, conservative men have legitimate, honest opinions based on serious ideology. Women, minorities, and anyone voting Democrat is an evil, greedy, lazy person with a sinister agenda to destroy America.

But naturally.

Srsly, if that's what you're saying all conservatives believe you really have no place to lecture anyone else.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

Just 2 different spectrums. The GoP tends to be more conservative/libertarian on social issues. Some support SSM and MJ legalization, but many oppose it due to their belief that it would negatively impact society or it isn't something that is needed/will be abused.

On the other hand, Democrats tend to be more liberal on social issues leaving society to do what it wants unregulated by government.

Where this changes is when it comes to money, economics and other aspects of life. Dems typically want more government control, more taxes, more social programs, more welfare and more regulation of business/the economy where as Republicans tend to oppose or be less imposing in these areas.

I'm all for states legalizing SSM on their own, I'm not for legalizing MJ. Each party has their best view for society, with one being more restrictive on some personal actions (abortion, homosexual marriage, illegal drug use, etc) while the other being more restrictive on some economic actions (higher taxes, more government control, more social programs, more regulation of business, etc). They each have their reasons as to why they are right. The reason Democrats tend to back SSM and MJ in my opinion, is to appeal to their constituents and go along with issues that fit in line with how they want to mold society. Republicans do the same.
 
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