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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

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    ^ And that right there is why I'm a Republican.
    Because you'd rather make war than get better teachers?

    Wow.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    If you're under 30 and not a liberal, you're heartless, it you're over 30 and not a conservative, you're brainless.

    Basically this poll says Millennials just ain't grown up, I wonder what possible cause there could be for young adults to be so... immature? Hmmmm....
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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

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    Well, first, you must understand I live in suburban Chicago. Teachers in this area make plenty of money. Most especially when one figures their most generous retirement programs. People who disagree with me about pension reform in Illinois always say, "Hey!!! That's part of our compensation package! It's the reason we work for the salaries we work for!" But when one uses it to show they are quite generously compensated, then they say, "Yeah, but that's a retirement! That shouldn't figure in our salaries!"

    There are great people with teaching certificates, master's degrees, bachelor's in education, virtually standing in line for jobs in this state. Good people. And if they aren't good, then blame the education they've bought and paid for and the training that goes along with their education degrees.

    Any time anyone talks about throwing more money at education, I cringe.
    Ok. That's a good response.

    I suppose I feel that we need to radically change education in this country. Frankly, I feel that it's the biggest problem we face.

    I can have a discussion with someone like you and put forward ideas and get a decent response. But quite frequently I find that I talk to people and they don't even know why they feel they way they do about issues. And that's a big problem. Why? Because it means that people, in general are not thinking. And when people don't think, someone else with an agenda that may not be wholesome, can step in and manipulate such persons for malicious means. You can see this very prominently in the political system in this country. Shrewd political strategists take advantage of hatred to get people to vote a particular way. They incite hatred of homosexuals, immigrants, and minorities to get votes. It's very dangerous because we were talking in another thread about how it seems that people are more angry these days.

    No, I don't think teachers make enough. They don't make enough to do the job the way I would like to see it done, and they don't make enough to attract the top talent to teach. I would personally like to teach, but I don't want to live on the kind of money a teacher makes, when I can make much more. I want teachers who understand the psychology of different types of students, and have demonstrated that they can work EFFECTIVELY with different types of students by the time they graduate. This can't be the type of profession where someone just goes to a diploma mill and gets a piece of paper. It's way to important. I want them to take the time and be able to work with students on an individual basis, outside of regular class time, if necessary to get results. We don't need this standardized testing crap, We need people that know what needs to be done, and have demonstrated they can get the job done before they go in the class. We need smaller class sizes. Get it down to where a teacher has to work with no more than 10 - 15 students. Even 15 may be too much. But I know it shouldn't be any more than that. Teachers need to be making over $100,000 a year, and they need to work very, very hard. That's one thing.

    Then we need to make sure they have the tools they need. Computers, books, whatever it takes. They shouldn't necessarily be bound to some centrally designated text, if a teacher feels they can teach better from another text, they should be provided that type of thing. I know if I were teaching someone about Fourier transforms, I wouldn't use any of that garbage they have in schools. I would use something like this:

    Who Is Fourier? A Mathematical Adventure 2nd Edition: Transnational College of Lex: 9780964350434: Amazon.com: Books

    You get a lot more mileage out of something like that than the crap they have in schools. But teachers can't do all that.

    We need to reform education. Then I would believe people really want to teach people to fish.

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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    By the way, I would disagree with the initial premise, that Dems are embracing legalized pot. Even in here California, Gov Brown wants to "wait and see how it does in Colorado and Washington" and there is no Dem in the Senate nor the House that is pushing legalization of pot. I wish they were, but it isn't happening.

    I hope the Dems will come on board soon; in my community there are many people - both dems and repubs - who want to see legalized pot. This could be a good issue for Dems to be out front on, but most politicians are scared to death of it.

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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

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    Ok. That's a good response.

    I suppose I feel that we need to radically change education in this country. Frankly, I feel that it's the biggest problem we face.

    I can have a discussion with someone like you and put forward ideas and get a decent response. But quite frequently I find that I talk to people and they don't even know why they feel they way they do about issues. And that's a big problem. Why? Because it means that people, in general are not thinking. And when people don't think, someone else with an agenda that may not be wholesome, can step in and manipulate such persons for malicious means. You can see this very prominently in the political system in this country. Shrewd political strategists take advantage of hatred to get people to vote a particular way. They incite hatred of homosexuals, immigrants, and minorities to get votes. It's very dangerous because we were talking in another thread about how it seems that people are more angry these days.

    No, I don't think teachers make enough. They don't make enough to do the job the way I would like to see it done, and they don't make enough to attract the top talent to teach. I would personally like to teach, but I don't want to live on the kind of money a teacher makes, when I can make much more. I want teachers who understand the psychology of different types of students, and have demonstrated that they can work EFFECTIVELY with different types of students by the time they graduate. This can't be the type of profession where someone just goes to a diploma mill and gets a piece of paper. It's way to important. I want them to take the time and be able to work with students on an individual basis, outside of regular class time, if necessary to get results. We don't need this standardized testing crap, We need people that know what needs to be done, and have demonstrated they can get the job done before they go in the class. We need smaller class sizes. Get it down to where a teacher has to work with no more than 10 - 15 students. Even 15 may be too much. But I know it shouldn't be any more than that. Teachers need to be making over $100,000 a year, and they need to work very, very hard. That's one thing.

    Then we need to make sure they have the tools they need. Computers, books, whatever it takes. They shouldn't necessarily be bound to some centrally designated text, if a teacher feels they can teach better from another text, they should be provided that type of thing. I know if I were teaching someone about Fourier transforms, I wouldn't use any of that garbage they have in schools. I would use something like this:

    Who Is Fourier? A Mathematical Adventure 2nd Edition: Transnational College of Lex: 9780964350434: Amazon.com: Books

    You get a lot more mileage out of something like that than the crap they have in schools. But teachers can't do all that.

    We need to reform education. Then I would believe people really want to teach people to fish.
    I agree with you that we need to reform education. I don't have the answers, though. I got a terrific education from our public school system. Lived in a blue-collar community in suburban Chicago. My parents weren't involved at all with my education or with the school. I think I had great teachers. While my counselors were disappointed I didn't plan to go to college, they still fast-tracked me with the classes I'd need to earn a living after high school. I was involved in a work program my junior and senior years where I got out of school at 1 PM in the afternoon and worked as a secretary for a company that worked with the school to do just that...give kids jobs while in high school.

    We don't do that now -- I don't think. Those who don't go to college are ill-prepared by their education to live their lives. That's a crying shame, in my opinion. What's credit?? How important is my credit score?? How do you balance a checkbook?? Some consumer contract law. Learn a trade. Etc. Etc. Everyone is not college material. Everyone doesn't want to go to college. Why do we treat every kid like we're somehow cheating them if we don't get them in college? We aren't. 68% of high school graduates go to college. The others? They are ill-prepared for real life. Failure.

    Teaching is a skill and an artform, in my opinion. There's more to teaching than just knowing the information. It's creativity. It's enthusiasm. Every teacher in our schools should have a little Tony Robbins in them. But they don't. And "they" don't look for that. Go through the motions...get your degree...get a job.

    There's a lot that should be different. I don't have the answers. But I know that simply throwing money at the problem isn't the answer. We've tried that.

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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    The 17 year old who got a nice high off a joint with his girl, and sped off after only to run a stop sign and kill my brother and his girl friend thinks it's a sin.


    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Or maybe liberals just think that gays have rights and smoking refer ain't no sin!

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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

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    A new Pew Research survey seems to indicate that millenials, the age group from 18 to 33, tend to favor gay rights and marijuana legalization. and tend to vote for Democrats. I think it is highly likely that Democrats have embraced these two issues to drive a stake in the heart of the Republican party. Recall recently how Obama spoke in favor of marijuana legalization and came out in favor of gay rights.

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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    The 17 year old who got a nice high off a joint with his girl, and sped off after only to run a stop sign and kill my brother and his girl friend thinks it's a sin.
    Legalizing marijuana still leaves DUI illegal, much in the same way as alcohol. I'm sorry for your loss, but making marijuana illegal doesn't prevent something like this. Making alcohol illegal doesn't stop people from drinking and driving.

    People who drive under the influence of alcohol or drugs should be stabbed in the face with a rusty ice pick, but that's not a reason for marijuana or alcohol to be illegal for everyone.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    The 17 year old who got a nice high off a joint with his girl, and sped off after only to run a stop sign and kill my brother and his girl friend thinks it's a sin.
    So what killed the girl, the guy driving the car or the joint? That's like blaming alcohol instead of blaming the drunk driver. I thought you were about personal responsibility? Guess not.

    You must blame guns instead of the people that use them too right? oh wait, it's all different to you because it's weed.

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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    We have a constitutional right to use firearms, not get high and go out and kill people. The only reason to legalize it is to stone up another generation so you leftist can enjoy controlling them.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So what killed the girl, the guy driving the car or the joint? That's like blaming alcohol instead of blaming the drunk driver. I thought you were about personal responsibility? Guess not.

    You must blame guns instead of the people that use them too right? oh wait, it's all different to you because it's weed.

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