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    Re: Is the Republican Party in danger of dying out?

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    I found this gem and it does not look as rosy as you think it is:Actually, Mitt, even a lot of white voters didn't want you - CNN.com
    Roland Martin is a putz. I'm not name-calling here, he really is a mental midget. He points to the whiteness of the Romney campaign staff but somehow doesn't think that the whiteness of the Obama reelection campaign team is noteworthy?



    Then he points to the embarrassing fact that voters in very white states overwhelmingly voted for Obama. Um yeah, these people view black people on TV and think of the Cosby Show. It's a damning indictment of liberals that the further away they live from blacks and other minorities the more likely they are to support Obama. Something about living in close proximity to diversity erodes all that good liberalism.

    Regardless, he did get one point correct - Romney won 59% of the white vote.

    Why didn't he tell us how much of the white male vote Obama won? Why is the onus on Romney to capture the minority vote but Obama gets a free pass on trying to appeal to white male voters?

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    Re: Is the Republican Party in danger of dying out?

    The lower 50 percent Mitt???

    Poor Mitt. Guy looks so uptight.

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    Re: Is the Republican Party in danger of dying out?

    In all fairness to Mitt, I remember when one prominent conservative said "we are the party of the barons." LOL

    Mitt was just speaking from the heart.

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    Re: Is the Republican Party in danger of dying out?

    I keep hearing various conservative pundits, talking heads, etc.

    Say that if the republican party would just follow conservative guidelines on fiscal policy and social policy, they'd be elected easily.

    Just once I'd like to see them try, to prove whether that's true or not.
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    Re: Is the Republican Party in danger of dying out?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I keep hearing various conservative pundits, talking heads, etc.

    Say that if the republican party would just follow conservative guidelines on fiscal policy and social policy, they'd be elected easily.

    Just once I'd like to see them try, to prove whether that's true or not.
    Wisconsin has a $1 billion surplus this year.

    Frankly, I think the US is beyond salvage and is going to break up.

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    Re: Is the Republican Party in danger of dying out?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Wisconsin has a $1 billion surplus this year.

    Frankly, I think the US is beyond salvage and is going to break up.
    We're too lazy.
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    Re: Is the Republican Party in danger of dying out?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Wisconsin has a $1 billion surplus this year.

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    Um, false.

    Wisconsin is projected to have a $1 billion surplus at the end of the two-year budget period covering July 2013 to July 2015 -- almost all of it because tax collections are rising faster than expected, the nonpartisan Legislative Fiscal Bureau said in January.
    2015 is NOT this year.
    Wisconsin Democratic Party says state budget surpluses common nationally | PolitiFact Wisconsin

    And not like Wisconsin is the only state experiencing surpluses - from the same link:
    We asked Democratic Party spokesperson Melissa Baldauff to back up the claim of "higher than expected tax revenues and projected budget surpluses in nearly every state."

    She cited an Associated Press story from January 2014 that said that "almost all states will see fairly decent surpluses" in their 2014 budgets. That story quoted the National Association of State Budget Officers (NASBO).

    We followed up with Scott Pattison, executive director of the budget officerís group. He confirmed the projection. The 2013 stock market surge will goose income tax collections, Pattison said, and many states budgeted conservatively for 2014, not foreseeing the marketís runup.

    That, he said, means surpluses are in store for fiscal year 2014, which for most states ends by mid-year.

    And that comes on the heels of the 2013 budget year in which "37 states exceeded original (revenue) forecasts, six states were on target and seven states ended fiscal 2013 below the original revenue estimate," according to the nonpartisan budget associationís December 2013 report, "The Fiscal Survey of States." Baldauff also cited that report.

    The revenue windfalls meant surpluses were common, the report said.

    and by the way - sounds like he'll need that money to cover the following couple years -
    Mary Burke says Wisconsin has gone from $700 million surplus to a $750 million deficit | PolitiFact Wisconsin
    Burke said the state is going from a $700 million surplus "to getting into the next biennium with almost a $750 million deficit."

    Her numbers check out, and she properly identifies a big swing in Walkerís budgeting, but -- like Walkerís similar claim -- thereís a problem because the two numbers arenít easily compared.

    We rate her claim Half True.

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    Re: Is the Republican Party in danger of dying out?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I have provided some sources in this thread that are good reading. Perhaps you should look into them.
    The reason that link was provided appears to have escaped you. You really need some context here, you are missing the forest for the trees.

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    Re: Is the Republican Party in danger of dying out?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I keep hearing various conservative pundits, talking heads, etc.

    Say that if the republican party would just follow conservative guidelines on fiscal policy and social policy, they'd be elected easily.

    Just once I'd like to see them try, to prove whether that's true or not.
    Interesting take, I agree on fiscal policy, and even defense-but on social policy Id like to see a more libertarian lean-at least thats the type of conservative I am.

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    Re: Is the Republican Party in danger of dying out?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Interesting take, I agree on fiscal policy, and even defense-but on social policy Id like to see a more libertarian lean-at least thats the type of conservative I am.
    It's almost impossible to keep a coherent society together under a conservative fiscal policy, strong defense policy and a libertine social policy for the incohesiveness which arises from the social realm works to fragment society and thus undermines the coherence which disciplines fiscal and defense policy.

    It's like saying someone wants uniformity and variety at the same time.

    The better policy is to take the good with the bad instead of trying to lump together fragmented good pieces into some Frankensteinian creation.

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