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    Re: Is the Republican Party in danger of dying out?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    You are a smart guy and I respect your intelligence. But I fail to understand why you are trying to provide cover for such outrageous behavior. It is simply unacceptable.

    what is outrageous behavior?

    something that someone formulated to be outrageous by writing something in a news paper.

    not everyone in the world see things thru the prism you see them through....does that make what you think be unacceptable......unacceptable for everyone, i am sure things you would view as acceptable many other people would not.

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    But just in case you don't understand what I'm saying, here's a reference for you:

    Caldwell: Is "thug" the new word of choice for bigots? - The Denver Post
    i would like to know how you draw from the idea that a man, just like any other man has the ability though writing a story can change the meaning of words.

    the dictionary defines "thug" as a cruel or vicious ruffian, robber, or murderer.

    this is not the first time in the last several years this sort of things has occur, were people want to change words to suit their own means,.......and frankly its getting very tiring with people doing it.

    the public has already encountered these already:

    i don't like Obama policies------racist

    i don't like Obama's nomination---racist

    we need to reduce federal spending-- racist

    we need to cut taxes --racist

    we need to shrink the government--racist

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    The point is this, Republicans need to stop race baiting in this way, that's if they want to make their party more attractive.
    the republican party is made up of several factions, it does not all think the same.

    but if you mean by attractive?.....offering groups things [commodities]....that is not going to happen.
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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Watch this and figure out what side you are on.
    Since you are conservative, here's some Viereck for you

    "Man was born free" (said Rousseau, with his faith in the natural goodness of man) "but is everywhere in chains." "In chains, so he ought to be," replies the thoughtful conservative, defending the good and wise and necessary chains of rooted tradition and historical continuity, upon which depend the civil liberties, the shared civil liberties of modern liberals and conservatives, and parliamentary monarchists, and democratic socialists. Without the chaos-chaining, and id-chaining heritage of rooted values, what is to keep man from becoming Eichmann or Nechayev-what is to save freedom form "freedom?"
    That's real conservatism, and is why I said, conservatism as an ideology, I don't have a problem with. It's how the modern Republican party practices it's so called conservatism that bothers me. I gave three ways that I thought it could be corrected.

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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    It seems to me that it would be better to at the very least pretend that a right to free speech exists, rather than not.
    Your point is well taken.

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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Of course, but you don't have a billion dollars so there is nothing to protect.
    Whoever you are, you are ok in my book!!! lol

    I like that.

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    Re: Is the Republican Party in danger of dying out?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Surely you must realize that your request is impossible to fulfill. For better or worse, for right or wrong, there is a faction of people in the GOP who simply are very racially conservative and they see the party as representing those conservative racial interests. And if that results in basically a white persons party - with a large share of that being a white males party - that is simply the result of both the constituency of the party as well as the policies they will support and back which in turn attract more of those same people. Its a cycle with no ind or change in sight.

    It seems foolish for GOP spokespersons to say that they have to attract decent numbers of minorities while at the same time having no policies which would attract minorities in any number beyond the mere token or two. It simply does not work that way.

    Republicans cannot make their party more attractive to minorities without making it less attractive to many of the people who already see it as their party of choice. Its a catch 22 for them and with demographic projections it only spells disaster for them unless they can find a way out. And of course they have found a way out...... its called voter suppression of those who will not vote for you.

    That is the solution to their problem.
    since you feel you can analyze the GOP and their problems, then you must have formulated the problems with the DNC, please share them with us.

    after all, we don't want a one-sided partisan presentation do we?

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    Re: Is the Republican Party in danger of dying out?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    since you feel you can analyze the GOP and their problems, then you must have formulated the problems with the DNC, please share them with us.

    after all, we don't want a one-sided partisan presentation do we?
    We get plenty from both sides. So your fears have no chance of becoming reality on this site.

    My problems with Obama and the Democratic party are that Obama sided far too much with the same Wall Street crowd that helped cause so many of the problems in the first place. If yiu want to know more Rolling Stone Magazine had an excellent article on this about two or three years into the first term. The author (Taibi?) looked at the two factions who ran the campaign and then went through positions of power that were handed out in jobs when Obama took office. Almost always the more populist grass roots people were ignored and the Wall Street type like Geitner were rewarded. That was a great mistake and a betrayal of what I am others worked for in the Obama campaign. I will try to locate the article and link it for you to read.

    Many of us who worked hard to get Obama elected thought we were promised the second coming of Franklin Roosevelt and the New Deal and that is what we worked for. Instead, we got the second coming of Jimmy Carter.


    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...eform-20120510

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...-deal-20110824
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    Re: Is the Republican Party in danger of dying out?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    We get plenty from both sides. So your fears have no chance of becoming reality on this site.

    My problems with Obama and the Democratic party are that Obama sided far too much with the same Wall Street crowd that helped cause so many of the problems in the first place. If yiu want to know more Rolling Stone Magazine had an excellent article on this about two or three years into the first term. The author (Taibi?) looked at the two factions who ran the campaign and then went through positions of power that were handed out in jobs when Obama took office. Almost always the more populist grass roots people were ignored and the Wall Street type like Geitner were rewarded. That was a great mistake and a betrayal of what I am others worked for in the Obama campaign. I will try to locate the article and link it for you to read.
    well to mention it, rolling stone magazine, recently put out an issue, calling for many things that are in the communist manifesto......so i cant say i want to listen to what they say.

    i do agree both sides listen to wallstreet......wallstreet is faction/special interest........democracy breeds faction.........which is why power should always be divided...IE ...mixed government.

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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    This is remarkably ignorant. Even animals understand the right to self defense, for example.
    That's not a "right". That's something animals -including people - tend to do. If animals have a right to self-defense, then do they have a right to kill hunters?

    NATURE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT RIGHTS. Nature doesn't grant rights or correct wrongs. Nature just is.

    The concept of "rights" cannot exist without some kind of organized society. "Stand your ground" laws are because of an organized society; in nature, they are meaningless. If you kill someone because you think they are threatening you ... nature doesn't care. If you kill a woman's kids because you want to have kids with her and you don't want competition from another man's kids... nature doesn't care.

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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    That's not a "right". That's something animals -including people - tend to do. If animals have a right to self-defense, then do they have a right to kill hunters?
    you are lost when it comes to what he said.

    he is saying even an animal understands the right to defense........meaning any animal, will fight if backed into a corner.... its in there nature.

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    Is the Republican Party in danger of dying out?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    It seems to me that it would be better to at the very least pretend that a right to free speech exists, rather than not.
    That's the great thing about social or cultural constructs. It is literally like the wishing fairy. If we believe hard enough and act on those beliefs the right exists.

    It's kind of beautiful when you think about it. What power we have to create.

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