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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    First, I don't really think there is any such thing as common sense. There's no folksy wisdom. There's just knowledge and ignorance.

    Second, while we might condemn our political opponents, most of the people who aspire to political office really are patriotic and love their country. They might have twisted ideas about race, religion, class, gender, sexuality, economics, or basically whatever, but they really do have the best of intentions. In the beginning, at least.



    People don't always do the right thing. Liberals don't actually think that Obama is some kind of paragon or that he has to be. We yelled at him over these positions and he listened to us (cuz we're his constituency). Isn't that what politicians are supposed to do?
    Hey, at least you admit Obama represents Liberals. I plan to cite this to other libs in the future.
    As of now, the childish MO of the left is to claim Obama is actually a conservative.
    I loved his CPAC speech.

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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Hey, at least you admit Obama represents Liberals. I plan to cite this to other libs in the future.
    As of now, the childish MO of the left is to claim Obama is actually a conservative.
    I loved his CPAC speech.
    That is the very first time I have ever heard someone call Obama a conservative....did you just make that up?

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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Kindly place me on ignore, since the truth hurts.
    In other words, no response. SHOCKING.
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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    So some undefined "higher power" must give rights, or we have none.
    since you are asking me this question again, it seems i do not do a good job in explaining your question before.

    i will be clearer this time.

    first,... i am NOT speaking about rights, from a biblical prospective, and am speaking about rights of the prospective of ...U.S. LAW...........NOT laws of foreign governments.

    THE FUNDAMENTAL OR ORGANIC LAWS OF THE U.S.

    The Organic Laws of the United States of America can be found in Volume One of the United States Code which contains the General and Permanent Laws of the United States. U.S. Code defines the organic laws of the United States of America to include the Declaration of Independence of July 4, 1776, the Articles of Confederation of November 15, 1777, the Northwest Ordinance of July 13, 1787, and the Constitution of September 17, 1787.

    MAKING the Declaration of Independence ----------->LAW.

    our Declaration of Independence states rights are endowed meaning they come from a higher power, ...why the higher power?.......to signify rights DO NOT come from man , but from something HIGHER, therefore not in mans power to give OR take away.

    from this statement of the Declaration of Independence, that law has NEVER BEEN VIOLATED, .......THE U.S. CONGRESS has never created a right in its entire history.

    the u.s. constitution with its bill of rights, does NOT has NOT given or ever granted a rights to it citizens.

    our bill of rights RECOGNIZES RIGHTS ONLY, and they are enumerated, our bill of rights with its clauses........are declaratory and restrictive clause places on the federal government, that it shall make no laws, violating the recognized rights which are enumerated [ this can be found in reading the preamble to the bill of rights], .....all other rights which are not enumerated by the constitution, fall under the 9th amendment.

    rights like the right to vote are not listed in the bill of rights,.....that right was recognized by the USSC.......the judicial branch of our government, not its legislative branch.

    the u.s. was not created has a democracy, the people were NOT given absolute power to do as they will, [majority rule], america was created as a federal republic, with a constitution, making it a republican form of government NOT democratic form, with RULE OF LAW.

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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    the u.s. was not created has a democracy, the people were NOT given absolute power to do as they will, [majority rule], america was created as a federal republic, with a constitution, making it a republican form of government NOT democratic form, with RULE OF LAW.
    Very glad to see you type these words Herr Barkmann. Your admission that the government of the USA is indeed a republican form puts to rest all your previous posts in which you complain about that very fact and claim that the issue was debatable and not clear.

    the thread you started on this very subject now needs to be corrected by this latest admission by you

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-con...c-w-172-a.html


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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    They are created by a collective body. Without a social construction, the law of the land is anything anyone wants.

    That is why natural rights are a necessary fiction, and why, despite anything to the contrary, why they should be construed as being created by nature or by a supreme being. The less awareness and control men have over their bond with one another, the better.
    see post #304

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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Very glad to see you type these words Herr Barkmann. Your admission that the government of the USA is indeed a republican form puts to rest all your previous posts in which you complain about that very fact.


    Glad to see you were convinced and finally came around to seeing things as they really are.
    it seems you have not been paying attention, i have stated the usa IS A republican form of government since i have been on this forum.

    it you deny this....... please say so....... and i will provide you with many links which i have stated it is, ...FOR A very very long time.

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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    it seems you have not been paying attention, i have stated the usa IS A republican form of government since i have been on this forum.

    it you dought it please say so....... and i will provide you with many links which i have stated it is, ...FOR A very long time.
    Glad to hear it Herr Barkmann. Very glad to hear it. So we can put to bed all this complaining about mixed government and the like.

    Sadly, your own words show that you have not been as consistent or insistent as you would pretend.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...w-85-a-46.html

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    as explained to you many times, the 17th changed the structure of the federal government and turn the senate into a democracy, like the house, making them both collective now.

    and allowed collectivism, faction/special interest to grow and take over our government, government to expand and violate the constitution.
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    when the 17th amendment came into being, it changed the senate which was an aristocracy of being elected by the legislatures of the states, over to direct election by the people as the house is ............making it a democracy.

    this turned the congress as a whole into a democracy now................. employing now 2 elements of democracy in our government..........moving America closer to that vile form of democratic government, which is always at war with individual rights of the people
    YOu make many statements in this thread disparaging our form of government and claiming that it is now a democracy. So apparently you once believed we were a republic, then recently took on a different view, but after debate with me and others have been converted back. Glad to be of help in getting you to see the light.
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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    He was eviscerated because he was a weak leader. Even democrats appear to have agreed, judging by the election results.
    So your stance is that promoting actual personal responsibility = weak leader.
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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Glad to hear it Herr Barkmann. Very glad to hear it. So we can put to bed all this complaining about mixed government and the like.

    Sadly, your own words show that you have not been as consistent or insistent as you would pretend.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...w-85-a-46.html

    YOu make many statements in this thread disparaging our form of government and claiming that it is now a democracy. So apparently you once believed we were a republic, then recently took on a different view, but after debate with me and others have been converted back. Glad to be of help in getting you to see the light.
    our nation is a federal republic, with a Constitution making it a republican form of government [which i have repeated on this forum many many times], ...........the constitution by its structure , how our officials were elected pre17th.....makes it a MIXED GOVERNMENT.

    republican form of government..............not a...... MIXED FORM OF GOVERNMENT.

    the USA was not created has a democratic form of government,....... because it was created with 3 difference forms of government.....a monarchy[president], aristocracy [senate].........both of these forms are NOT DEMOCRATIC.........and a democracy [house of representatives]......the only democratic aspect of our government......making the USA a republican form.
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