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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Or maybe liberals just think that gays have rights and smoking refer ain't no sin!
    No, liberals don't actually support liberty. I have never seen a liberal support any sort of hint at liberty without government involvement.

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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Why is it that every time the Democratic Party takes a socially liberal stance on an issue, the default argument is that they're just sucking up for votes?
    Because democrats are only interested in government power.

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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Because democrats are only interested in government power.
    Which is, of course, nonsense insofar as the idea that the Republicans are somehow less interested than the Democrats in getting and maintaining power is also nonsense.

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    No, liberals don't actually support liberty. I have never seen a liberal support any sort of hint at liberty without government involvement.
    This is also nonsense. Define "government involvement" in the case of, say, marijuana legalization.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Which is, of course, nonsense insofar as the idea that the Republicans are somehow less interested than the Democrats in getting and maintaining power is also nonsense.
    I never said anything about the republicans.

    This is also nonsense. Define "government involvement" in the case of, say, marijuana legalization.
    Do you know the difference between decriminalization and legalization? Tell me, how much control is still on pot in those places like Colorado?

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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I never said anything about the republicans.
    The standalone claim that the Democrats are only interested in political power carries the implication that the GOP are somehow not.

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    Do you know the difference between decriminalization and legalization? Tell me, how much control is still on pot in those places like Colorado?
    So the fact that a substance is legal but still regulated means no "liberty"?
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    The standalone claim that the Democrats are only interested in political power carries the implication that the GOP are somehow not.
    Again, I made no mention of republicans. Republicans pretend to be for small government and for free markets, but in reality there is very little that democrats support that republicans do not.

    So the fact that a substance is legal but still regulated means no "liberty"?
    Is it really legal? What are you supporting regulating anyway? The activities of individuals that they do to themselves?

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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Again, I made no mention of republicans. Republicans pretend to be for small government and for free markets, but in reality there is very little that democrats support that republicans do not.
    Yay!

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    Is it really legal?
    How is it not?

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    What are you supporting regulating anyway? The activities of individuals that they do to themselves?
    It's properly taxed and the laws are designed to keep it out of the hands of children. Also, you can grow it in Colorado.

    I'm not sure what you're arguing in favor of or against here.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    That's what Democrats do.

    Haven't you ever looked at what is under the Democrat tent ? It's a frickin carnival.
    That "carnival" is a snapshot of America today. Ignore it and die.

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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    A new Pew Research survey seems to indicate that millenials, the age group from 18 to 33, tend to favor gay rights and marijuana legalization. and tend to vote for Democrats. I think it is highly likely that Democrats have embraced these two issues to drive a stake in the heart of the Republican party. Recall recently how Obama spoke in favor of marijuana legalization and came out in favor of gay rights.

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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Yay!
    Of course. I am not a republican. If you ask me there is two kinds of republicans. There are those that are idiots that if you are like myself you enjoy watching for the laughs, or the democrats that put the wrong letter in front of their name. Of course, there is also the outliers like Rand Paul, but lets just ignore him since he accounts for a grant total of one person.

    That is not to say democrats aren't full of idiots like that Johnson fellow that can't get through a sentence without putting in at least twenty umms between a grand total of five words, all of which are only one syllable long. He is my favorite congressmen. It's all serious business, and then it's his time to ask questions, and I just sit there laughing at him. He really picks up the mood in the room. Good for him. Btw, that dude needs someone to help him shave. He has gone completely white even on his beard, which is fine really, but it's freaking hilarious how he always forgets random spots all over his face. The dude has to be like sixty, and he still can't shave. These are the people that are getting elected in this country. Education fail America.

    How is it not?
    In-state residents can only buy an ounce at a time. Out-of-staters are limited to 1/4 ounce. Hardly what I consider liberty.
    You can’t smoke in public, especially not on federal property.
    You can grow your own pot, but you can’t sell it if you’re not licensed by the state.
    You can’t take marijuana out of the state.
    Medical marijuana is limited in amount.
    You have to show your ID to buy it.
    Stores can't open before 8 a.m. and they can't stay open later than midnight
    Marijuana stores require the shops to have a security camera pointed at the cash register so that it can record "the customer and employee facial features with sufficient clarity to determine identity. Interesting one, ain't it?

    There is of course many more, but I think you got the point.

    It's properly taxed and the laws are designed to keep it out of the hands of children. Also, you can grow it in Colorado.
    Why does every piece of property need to be taxed and why does it matter what kids do to their own bodies? That is a parents issue, and a parents issue alone.

    I'm not sure what you're arguing in favor of or against here.
    For.
    Last edited by Henrin; 03-08-14 at 02:29 AM.

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