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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

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    government.

    but people do not get to determine, what rights are for people.

    man, cannot give man a right.
    You sure about that?

    If so, there wouldn't be any dictators.

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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

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    Obama, during the campaign, made some offhanded comment about how properly inflating one's tires improves gas mileage. John McCain ridiculed him for it, even though he was right.
    If the GOP gave a **** about personal responsibility, they would acknowledge any and all references to it. Instead, they only pay lip service to it regarding stuff they don't want other people to have, such as food stamps for the poor.
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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

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    It's not belief. There us no such thing as a left that shares complete unified beliefs. Same goes for the right. Most people are some combination of the two, depending on the issue. But even if there really was a unified group of people of any significant number, so what? Are you afraid to merely argue the points? Over generalizing is often done to avoid any real arguments. There is no other real or honest reason for it.
    i am not being partisan, as in one side over the other, even people who say they are on the right, use collectivism in various ways.

    if you read of the progressive movement of the late 1800's you will see the progressive promoted the idea of democracy in america, ................america was not a democracy up until that time.

    progressives pushed the direct election of senators, and the idea of referendums of the people., which is what the founders wanted to avoid. by the structure of checks an balances.

    the founders were against collectivism thru the power of legislation which is why a senate was created, as stated by the James Madison in federalist 63

    "The true distinction between these and the American governments, lies in the total exclusion of the people, in their collective capacity, from any share in the latter, and not in the total exclusion of the representatives of the people from the administration of the former"

    democracy is collective.

    Marxism holds that "democracy is the road to socialism

    "Democracy is indispensable to socialism." - Vladimir Lenin

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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    i am not being partisan, as in one side over the other, even people who say they are on the right, use collectivism in various ways.

    if you read of the progressive movement of the late 1800's you will see the progressive promoted the idea of democracy in america, ................america was not a democracy up until that time.

    progressives pushed the direct election of senators, and the idea of referendums of the people., which is what the founders wanted to avoid. by the structure of checks an balances.

    the founders were against collectivism thru the power of legislation which is why a senate was created, as stated by the James Madison in federalist 63

    "The true distinction between these and the American governments, lies in the total exclusion of the people, in their collective capacity, from any share in the latter, and not in the total exclusion of the representatives of the people from the administration of the former"

    democracy is collective.

    Marxism holds that "democracy is the road to socialism

    "Democracy is indispensable to socialism." - Vladimir Lenin
    in other words, the founders believed that the people were incapable of governing.
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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

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    You sure about that?

    If so, there wouldn't be any dictators.



    if man can give any right, then can he give a right to kill?

    if man can give rights.....can he take them away, because he just chooses to do so?

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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    if man can give any right, then can he give a right to kill?

    if man can give rights.....can he take them away, because he just chooses to do so?
    Guess what, that is EXACTLY what happens in countries with dictators.

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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    in other words, the founders believed that the people were incapable of governing.
    no the founders believed in the people having a voice in government.....they made sure of that, however they tempted the voice of the people, .....which at times can be seduced and beguiled, by those who lust for power., so they created a senate to cool the hot, and unbridled passion of the people., who would act without thinking.

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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

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    A new Pew Research survey seems to indicate that millenials, the age group from 18 to 33, tend to favor gay rights and marijuana legalization. and tend to vote for Democrats. I think it is highly likely that Democrats have embraced these two issues to drive a stake in the heart of the Republican party. Recall recently how Obama spoke in favor of marijuana legalization and came out in favor of gay rights.

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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    The GOP continues to SAY they are for Tax Reform.
    Surprising to most politicos, Cantor/Boehner allowed long-time GOP and outgoing Ways and Means Chair Camp to put forth his Tax Reform bill.
    We all know by now it was dead before arrival upon proclamation by Sen. McConnell.
    What House GOPs aren't counting on is pay-back from incoming Chair Ryan .
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    Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    i am not being partisan, as in one side over the other, even people who say they are on the right, use collectivism in various ways.

    if you read of the progressive movement of the late 1800's you will see the progressive promoted the idea of democracy in america, ................america was not a democracy up until that time.

    progressives pushed the direct election of senators, and the idea of referendums of the people., which is what the founders wanted to avoid. by the structure of checks an balances.

    the founders were against collectivism thru the power of legislation which is why a senate was created, as stated by the James Madison in federalist 63

    "The true distinction between these and the American governments, lies in the total exclusion of the people, in their collective capacity, from any share in the latter, and not in the total exclusion of the representatives of the people from the administration of the former"

    democracy is collective.

    Marxism holds that "democracy is the road to socialism

    "Democracy is indispensable to socialism." - Vladimir Lenin
    just for a moment read what you just wrote. You support everything I said in this post. There are no real Marxist here. No real socialist. All you could gather of both couldn't will a small town dog catcher election. You have a false premise using a wild exaggerated over generalization. That's all there is to it.

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