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Is the Republican Party in danger of dying out?

Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

should we go back and look at this lie you just tried to sell?

this is what you ACTUALLY said

The point is that you appear to want to brush aside the fact that Republicans have used gay baiting to get votes.

and i NEVER did that now you are trying and failing to spin that and move the goal post but nobody is falling for it

Yes you did. You did it when you responded that Karl Rove was a nutcase. That's brushing it aside. By saying he's a nutcase, you denigrate, i.e. brush aside Karl Rove's gay baiting.
 
I don't support Cruz. He is an extremist. Funny how people can just make assumptions of others for no reason at all.

It just appeared that you are from Texas. If you don't support him I apologize.

That said, perhaps we can agree that Ted Cruz is not helping the process?
 
It just appeared that you are from Texas. If you don't support him I apologize.

That said, perhaps we can agree that Ted Cruz is not helping the process?

He isn't, but he is not a mainstream Republican either. In case you didn't know, there is a pretty big civil war going on inside the GOP right now.
 
He isn't, but he is not a mainstream Republican either. In case you didn't know, there is a pretty big civil war going on inside the GOP right now.

Yes there is. Actually it's been going on for a while now.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

Don't know, don't really care.

(same goes for the Democratic party)
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

Yes you did. You did it when you responded that Karl Rove was a nutcase. That's brushing it aside. By saying he's a nutcase, you denigrate, i.e. brush aside Karl Rove's gay baiting.

BAM!
thats what i thought you got nothing, i called it you dodged the question again and posted another lie
let me know when you do, id love to read it lol
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

The Constitution doesn't do anything. The Constitution is merely a written statement by persons with the power to restrict rights that tells citizens how people welding the power of government can restrict their behavior. It is the people who write the laws and enforce them that restrict rights.


this is incorrect. the constitution sets up the federal government and delegates them few powers, ,making them limited, and it directs the states not to engage in federal powers, the BOR restricts the federal government from creating any laws which violate rights of the people.......the people are not limited by the constitution at all, because constitutions are written for government, not the people.

under constitutional law, the federal government only has power over .......pirates ,counterfeiters, traitors, and tax cheats only....

the life liberty and property of the American people is a state power......federalist #46



Actually it is not strictly your own affair. The government takes thousands of dollars from me in the form of taxes every year. Although I don't like it, there is nothing, practically speaking, that I can do to stop them.

under the founders, it would be stealing to tax... income, which is why they did not do such a thing, but today it is constitutional, and legal.....as long as the money is spend on delegated powers only.



If someone restricts your rights, it is not a crime unless the government says it's a crime.

laws have been written already to deal with all crimes , dealing with rights of the people.......governments duty is to secure rights........if they do not uphold that duty, then they are violating their oath of office.



And because government, through the enactment of laws, the process of interpretation of those laws, and the enforcement of those laws determine when the rights of others have been violated or cause a health or safety concern, government determines what you have a right to do.

if you violate a person rights...that's a crime.....you go to jail........if you violate heath and saftey, ...say though ownership of a business, without intent to commit , its a violation of city code, and a fine will ensue.


Because the government determines who or what is a victim, government determines what you have a right to do.

government is here to secure rights of the people.......if no person rights are violated, or there's no health and saftey violation of the public,....who is your victim?
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

BAM!
thats what i thought you got nothing, i called it you dodged the question again and posted another lie
let me know when you do, id love to read it lol

What's of interest here is the phrase, "I called it."

You are right, YOU called it.
 
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What's of interest here is the phrase, "I called it."

You are right, YOU called it.

yes i know i called the fact the question would be dodged again lol thanks for proving me right. Let me know when you are ready to answer the question and can back up the lie you posted lol
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

this is incorrect. the constitution sets up the federal government and delegates them few powers, ,making them limited, and it directs the states not to engage in federal powers, the BOR restricts the federal government from creating any laws which violate rights of the people.......the people are not limited by the constitution at all, because constitutions are written for government, not the people.

The people who write the constitution specify how the government can restrict the rights of people. Therefore it is not incorrect to say that the rights come from the people who write the constitution. They are people with a particular type of power than can, through the activity of government, restrict the rights of citizens.

under constitutional law, the federal government only has power over .......pirates ,counterfeiters, traitors, and tax cheats only....

the life liberty and property of the American people is a state power......federalist #46

First of all the Federalist papers are not law. Again the constitution was amended to abolish the practice of slavery in the United States. The rights of US citizens to own slaves was restricted by that amendment.

under the founders, it would be stealing to tax... income, which is why they did not do such a thing, but today it is constitutional, and legal.....as long as the money is spend on delegated powers only.

Wesley Snipes tried to say that the government had no right to take taxes from him. He ended up in prison.

government is here to secure rights of the people.......if no person rights are violated, or there's no health and saftey violation of the public,....who is your victim?

I can say I have the right to own slaves, but it's meaningless because the Constitution says I can't in the United States. I can say the government has no right extract income tax from me, but it's meaningless because if I don't pay, I will be penalized.
 
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Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

yes i know i called the fact the question would be dodged again lol thanks for proving me right. Let me know when you are ready to answer the question and can back up the lie you posted lol

OK. I'll leave it at that! LOL
 
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OK. I'll leave it at that! LOL

good move i accept your concession
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

good move i accept your concession

Ok, I accept that you accept! LOL
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

Is Ted Cruz a Ronald Reagan legend in his own mind ?
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

Law needs justification and it is entirely erroneous to claim that this justification for the law is found in the law itself, which is essentially what your argument is mounted on. The government declares a right, and regardless of this right being declared aggressive or non-aggressive in nature your argument would declare that the right is true and just and all objections to it are forfeit. Civil disobedience in your world could not possibly have justification as the source of the laws justification is not the people, but the law itself. Your argument is really no different than saying the king is our rightful ruler and us his rightful servants and slaves because he ruled it as such.

Sorry but I never made that argument.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

Ok, I accept that you accept! LOL

another good move because it would be true with or without your acceptance :shrug:
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

its subjective to the reader.

rights are unalienable.

government is instituted to secure the rights of the people......."if men were angels, no government would be necessary"

What do you mean INALIENABLE?
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

In my opinion, the Republican party could improve by doing three things

1. Stop placing an over emphasis on the interests of finance and employers and start looking out more for the interests of working people. This notion that the interests of finance and employers automatically take care of the interests of working people is flawed. You need to look at for all of them.

2. Stop pandering to racists.

3. Stop placing an over emphasis on projecting US power.

If they did these three things, they would make themselves more attractive.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

I think both parties are in danger of dying out.
Or perhaps splitting off smaller parties.

Unless they stop narrowing their focus and disregarding essential changes.

Or something.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

In my opinion, the Republican party could improve by doing three things

1. Stop placing an over emphasis on the interests of finance and employers and start looking out more for the interests of working people. This notion that the interests of finance and employers automatically take care of the interests of working people is flawed. You need to look at for all of them.

2. Stop pandering to racists.

3. Stop placing an over emphasis on projecting US power.

If they did these three things, they would make themselves more attractive.

Then they would be Democrats
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

Then they would be Democrats
The democrats do all 3 of those things just as much as the republicans. They're just sneakier about it.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

The USA will always have TWO Main parties and we are lucky for that.
Look at the messes in 3 and 4 party and free Nations.
Unless you want to live in a countrey with only one party, Putin's .
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

In my opinion, the Republican party could improve by doing three things

1. Stop placing an over emphasis on the interests of finance and employers and start looking out more for the interests of working people. This notion that the interests of finance and employers automatically take care of the interests of working people is flawed. You need to look at for all of them.

2. Stop pandering to racists.

3. Stop placing an over emphasis on projecting US power.

If they did these three things, they would make themselves more attractive.


thank you for posting on-topic!! I was just coming in to apologize for letting other posters pull me off-topic.
 
Re: The Reason Democrats Are Backing Gay Rights and Marijuana Legalization

The USA will always have TWO Main parties and we are lucky for that.
Look at the messes in 3 and 4 party and free Nations.
Unless you want to live in a countrey with only one party, Putin's .
I think there are merits and demerits to both a 2-party and a multi-party system. Both are better than a single party, IMO.
 
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