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    Re: Malaysia Airlines says Lost Contact with Plane carrying 239 people

    My own idea is that perhaps an engine fell off the plane like that DC-10 years ago... since the plane has only two big engines this would throw the weight and balance off so far the plane would go into an instant death spiral that no one could right. Also, it would make it difficult to call the ATC getting tossed around so violently and in a futile effort struggling to regain control.

    The engine would sink leaving little or no debris and the plane would hit the water whole...

    Perhaps that was the "turn" they saw: The plane in it's death spiral before it went below radar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    An explosion would have left a debris trail. This plane went down mostly intact.
    Its at the bottom of the ocean.
    No way.

    Remember the airfrance plane that went down ?

    Hit the water doing 90 MPH and broke up. Killed over 220 people.

    They drug the tail out in one piece amd loaded it onto a barge.

    If that plane hit the water doing 400 plus, even if it went straight down there would be debris.

    And a oil slick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Yes... and? Are you saying that all Iranians are terrorists?
    No, but apparently you're saying all Iranians have fake passports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    No, but apparently you're saying all Iranians have fake passports.
    No I am not.. tsk. But people who want to get into countries illegally do... and they were not fake, but stolen. And no terrorist would use a stolen passport.. fake maybe, but stolen no. Way too big a chance for it to pop on a screen when entering a country (unlike when leaving as we have seen).
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    Re: Malaysia Airlines says Lost Contact with Plane carrying 239 people

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    No way.

    Remember the airfrance plane that went down ?

    Hit the water doing 90 MPH and broke up. Killed over 220 people.

    They drug the tail out in one piece amd loaded it onto a barge.

    If that plane hit the water doing 400 plus, even if it went straight down there would be debris.

    And a oil slick.


    Just learned on radio this has happened before. In 2009 an Air France Airbus went down after leaving Rio:

    Air France Flight 447 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    What is different here is that there is no inflight automatic data.

    surprising also is the established cause of that crash:

    The final report, released at a news conference on 5 July 2012,[7][8] stated that the aircraft crashed after temporary inconsistencies between the airspeed measurements—likely due to the aircraft's pitot tubes being obstructed by ice crystals—caused the autopilot to disconnect, after which the crew reacted incorrectly and ultimately led the aircraft to an aerodynamic stall from which they did not recover.[7][9][10]
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    Re: Malaysia Airlines says Lost Contact with Plane carrying 239 people

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    No way.

    Remember the airfrance plane that went down ?

    Hit the water doing 90 MPH and broke up. Killed over 220 people.

    They drug the tail out in one piece amd loaded it onto a barge.

    If that plane hit the water doing 400 plus, even if it went straight down there would be debris.

    And a oil slick.
    Depends, we had one go into the Everglades and leave almost nothing visible on top.

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    Re: Malaysia Airlines says Lost Contact with Plane carrying 239 people

    Mystery Malaysia flight may have been hundreds of miles off course - CNN.com

    This just keeps getting stranger.

    The transponder signal is lost, then the plane changes directions and goes hundreds of miles off course, before disappearing from radar altogether.

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    Re: Malaysia Airlines says Lost Contact with Plane carrying 239 people

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Mystery Malaysia flight may have been hundreds of miles off course - CNN.com

    This just keeps getting stranger.

    The transponder signal is lost, then the plane changes directions and goes hundreds of miles off course, before disappearing from radar altogether.
    Makes you wonder if someone stole a plane.

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    Re: Malaysia Airlines says Lost Contact with Plane carrying 239 people

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    Makes you wonder if someone stole a plane.
    Alien abduction.

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    Re: Malaysia Airlines says Lost Contact with Plane carrying 239 people

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Mystery Malaysia flight may have been hundreds of miles off course - CNN.com

    This just keeps getting stranger.

    The transponder signal is lost, then the plane changes directions and goes hundreds of miles off course, before disappearing from radar altogether.
    It sure does.

    If this report is accurate then it points to a hijack and since no signal was sent (at least that's what's been reported) that would also imply crew participation. However, if it was a hijack then the obvious question is "why"? It doesn't make a lot of sense to jack a plane and 200+ people then not make any demands.

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