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    For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea

    By STEVEN LEE MYERS, DAVID M. HERSZENHORN and RICK GLADSTONEMARCH 7, 2014

    MOSCOW — Russia signaled for the first time on Friday that it was prepared to annex Crimea, significantly intensifying its confrontation with the West over the political crisis in Ukraine and threatening to undermine a system of respect for national boundaries that has helped keep the peace in Europe and elsewhere for decades.

    Leaders of both houses of Russia’s Parliament said that they would support a vote by Crimeans to break away from Ukraine and become a region of the Russian Federation, ignoring sanctions threats and warnings from the United States and other countries that a vote for secession would violate Ukraine’s constitution and international law.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/08/wo...idmherszenhorn

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    re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Nothing is over, in fact its going to get more intense. Obama has already threatened to "isolate" Russia, but this does not appear to be sufficient to stop Russia. This conflict is about get worse.

    In the mean time, the flag of the Russian Empire (end of XIX c) hangs on Russian BTR in Crimea.



    http://vk.com/video131652174_167728687
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    re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    It only gets worse if Obama interferes with people interested in self rule.
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    re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea

    By STEVEN LEE MYERS, DAVID M. HERSZENHORN and RICK GLADSTONEMARCH 7, 2014

    MOSCOW — Russia signaled for the first time on Friday that it was prepared to annex Crimea, significantly intensifying its confrontation with the West over the political crisis in Ukraine and threatening to undermine a system of respect for national boundaries that has helped keep the peace in Europe and elsewhere for decades.

    Leaders of both houses of Russia’s Parliament said that they would support a vote by Crimeans to break away from Ukraine and become a region of the Russian Federation, ignoring sanctions threats and warnings from the United States and other countries that a vote for secession would violate Ukraine’s constitution and international law.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/08/wo...idmherszenhorn
    I don't know enough about this to really comment intelligently. But that's never stopped me before. I seem to remember, when John McCain was running against Obama, that many people thought our country and perhaps the world would be exploited because Obama would be perceivedas a weak leader . . . That's IF this is even a bad thing. If Crimeans want to secede and become part of Russia, who are we to get involved??

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    re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It only gets worse if Obama interferes with people interested in self rule.
    Obama has already interfered, but Russia is clearly interested in taking over the Crimea. At a ball game, here are Ukrainians screaming "moscovites to the knifes!".



    Also, Russians are cuting signal of Ukrainian Radio and TV stations in Crimea. Russians stations are broadcasting in their frequencies.
    Last edited by US Conservative; 03-07-14 at 08:21 PM.

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    re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Obama has already interfered, but Russia is clearly interested in taking over the Crimea. At a ball game, here are Russians screaming "moscovites to the knifes!".



    Also, Russians are cuting signal of Ukrainian Radio and TV stations in Crimea. Russians stations are broadcasting in their frequencies.
    What makes you think that the people in the video are Russian?

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    re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    That's IF this is even a bad thing. If Crimeans want to secede and become part of Russia, who are we to get involved??
    Beats me.
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    re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
    Beats me.
    My impression of McCain leads me to believe he wants the USA involved in EVERYTHING.
    I supported McCain in 2000, but he appears awfully trigger-happy nowadays.
    His first instinct when faced with a foreign crisis appears to be to throw bombs and/or troops at it until it goes away.
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    re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    And Russia is blocking the Ukrainian navy, by scuttling ships.


    People walk past the scuttled decommissioned Russian vessel "Ochakov" on the Black Sea shore outside the town of Myrnyi, western Crimea, Ukraine, Thursday, March 6, 2014. In the early hours of Thursday Russian naval personnel scuttled the decommissioned ship, blockading access for five Ukrainian Naval vessels now trapped inside of the Southern Naval Headquarters located in Myrnyi in Western Crimea as Russian war vessels patrolled just of the coast. The vessel was brought by Russian naval forces on the 4th of March towed by a tug boat while escorted by a warship and several gun boats. Marines from the Ukrainian navy heard a loud explosion in the early hours of last night coming from the vessel blocking a channel leading to the Black Sea. (AP Photos/Darko Vojinovic)

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    re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fallenangel View Post
    What makes you think that the people in the video are Russian?

    Fallen.
    Actually, they are Ukrainian, post corrected.

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